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My wife has come out to me in couples therapy as bi.
We’ve been married 12 years.
We’ve had up’s and downs.
We have kids.
She has evidently had these feelings for quite some time.
Not sure how to negotiate this.... confused ... angry... scared... anxious.
What should I be doing right now?
I have online appointment with our couples therapist coming up
As she does. It will concern discernment process and whether to move forward.
I don’t know which way is up.
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okay so question - who set up the couples therapy, has your wife been seeing a therapist alone already?
I ask this because often couples therapy is where the straight spouse gets two-timed and it is full of unrealistic ideas and is more about what you can do to make the gay spouse happy (ie not get in her way and not expect so much of her) than anything to do with what you need. Just saying. that's what I have heard about from reading here.
for most of the human race we know we have feelings for whomever we do - if we didn't know before puberty we sure do after that! Gay people will often say they knew as young children. well yes I can sort of relate to that, I remember this boy I had a bit of a crush on at primary school. not that I would have thought of it like that back then. But I knew I liked him.
so my advice is listen to your feelings. Often the way you feel can be a better indicator of what is happening than your thoughts.
Everyone feels scared on facing change at that base level. Variety is the spice of life they say but however adventurous and liking new things you are, that is different to basic change where you are losing what is familiar - it is only natural to be on a bit of an emotional roller coaster right now.
My observation is that bisexuals tend to believe they know better than straights. But they don't, just like us they only know what it is like for themselves, and do not understand how different it is for a straight.
What should you be doing right now? taking stock of your own feelings. Thinking about what you both want and need in life. don't worry about your children, what they will always need is for you to look after you - gather strength, look around you for family and friends you can confide in. Post here as much as you like. Me, I liked going for walks a lot - the rhythmic motion the blue sky and clouds and I could let myself think as little or as much as I wanted. deep breaths and lots of water, right now you are in shock, it will settle back to normal in a while.
Let yourself be, self criticism is a good thing but right now let it be, be a best friend to yourself at all times.
wishing you all the best, Lily
Last edited by lily (April 15, 2020 11:14 pm)
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She had been seeing her own therapist for 12 years.
EMD... the whole kit and kaboodle.
We saw one together for about 6 years together before that therapist left for academia.
That got us through some rough stuff as a couple. ( lost a baby during premature birth)
She recommended we see this one together because we have had some real issues with
How we fight/have disagreements.
I am trying my best.
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TellMeIamOK wrote:
.....What should I be doing right now?.......I don’t know which way is up.
Welcome to the Forum Tellme
First things first...have a read of the First Aid Kit..it's on the General Board
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ah okay. So it might help to just think through exactly what is happening in terms of how the fights and disagreements go. Just think it through a bit on your own.
take a moment when you sit down for the therapy session to make a 'first impression' appraisal of the therapist. try and stay in touch with how you are feeling. Then after the first session give yourself the chance to say yes I like this or no I am not personally liking it.
You didn't make her bi - you thought you had a straight wife - this is not your fault.
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What do you want?
What does she want?
We're all attracted to many different things at once. What we choose to do with that is what matters.
Bi should not be code for blanket permission to play around while you wait for her to figure out what she wants or play the pick-me dance. (Not saying that's her goal but it does seem to appear as a common theme.)
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I found out the same for my wife not long ago, that she has sexual attractions for women (and still has them for men). You can look up my other posts if you want to read about my situation. We are still navigating this together and probably will be for a long time. My first comment - Do not be hard on yourself. Allow yourself to cry, for example, without restraint or shame. It is a way to avoid PTSD and recover more quickly and healthfully. Next, do NOT rush into making any decisions. Although the pain, anxiety, and fear you feel is overwhelming and you just want it to GO AWAY, do not run off to the attorneys or divorce counselors now. Be as patient as you can with each other.
Ask yourself, aside from her attraction to women, did you otherwise love her, look forward to coming home to her, and having time alone (not just for sex)?
If you want to talk more in a dialog, you can end me a private message.
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So an interesting sidebar to all this is that my wife has a lesbian friend.
Wife has set limits and boundaries to this friendship with lesbian friend.
To my knowledge wife has not divulged her possible sexual fluidity. My wife has not come out in public yet.
Wife wants to get together with friend.
If I question and verbalize my misgivings I negate trust, correct?
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I am so sorry you are in this wretched situation. This sounds horrible.
No. You are not negating trust by sharing your misgivings. The stories abound of husbands "supporting" their wife's sexual attractions and end up betraying their own interests and the boundaries of their marriage. Would you be "negating trust" if your wife wanted to get it on with a male friend of hers? If not, and you foresee yourself being happier if she created emotional, sexual, and romantic bonds with other people, I guess you don't need any help from us. Let her do whatever and whomever she wishes. If, however, you want a monogamous marriage, you are not supporting your own goals and, like MANY other men in your position, it WILL come back to haunt you and your marriage. She must respect and abide (happily and lovingly) by your boundaries and you with hers.
Talk to her about this. There should be no rush to get this done. Take your time. Months...a year...to figure out what you want and what she wants. If she can't wait that long to go to someone else...well...you are in need of marriage counseling and infidelity/affair recovery.
If your marriage is worth saving, because she loves you (and you know it) and you love her (and you know it), then she can wait until you are comfortable or just forgo this little sexual experience for the sake of your marriage, right? If not, she is choosing to de prioritize your marriage and you. I am sorry.
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TellMeIamOK wrote:
My wife has come out to me in couples therapy as bi.
We’ve been married 12 years.
We’ve had up’s and downs.
We have kids.
She has evidently had these feelings for quite some time.
I am so sorry to hear that you find yourself in this situation.
You say that your wife has come out as bi-sexual. Has she acted on these feelings?
TellMeIamOK wrote:
Not sure how to negotiate this.... confused ... angry... scared... anxious.
What should I be doing right now?
You are doing exactly what you should be doing. Gathering information, evaluating your relationship and determining what you want and need in a relationship with a spouse and figure out if your wife is capable of fulfilling those needs for you.
What brought about her realization that she is bi-sexual? Is there someone new in her life that brings these feelings to the surface for her?
A couple of questions you have to ask yourself -- has she been faithful to you? If not, are you okay with that?
Would it be different if she told you she had feelings for another man instead of feelings for a woman?
Are you interested in an open relationship where you stay married and she is free to have relationships with other women?
Does she feel sexually attracted to you?
Does she still love you romantically?
Or is her love for you more like the love of a friend or relative?
If she doesn't love you romantically, can you live without that kind of love in your life? Can you live with her as a roommate for the rest of your life while she forms romantic or even just sexual relationships with other women?
TellMeIamOK wrote:
I have online appointment with our couples therapist coming up
As she does. It will concern discernment process and whether to move forward.
I don’t know which way is up.
On the up side, at least she has admitted to you that she feels she is bi-sexual. Many spouses choose to stay in the closet of denial. You at least know what you are potentially up against.
If you need someone to vent to or chat with someone who has gone through something similar just drop me a private message and we can arrange a time to talk. It can be nice to have someone who can listen without judgement and understand what you are going through.