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February 13, 2020 1:48 pm  #11


Re: Suicidal thoughts

I am so sorry you are going through this. I have been extremely depressed as well. I coped by eating and drinking and not taking care of myself. I know you dont want to have to pick yourself up right now but start small and start doing things everyday for YOU. Whether that be eating healthy, buying a dress/necklace, going on a trip, anything for YOU. I have to remind myself everyday that I need to care about myself because if I dont I will slip into my hatred for myself which consists of me sleeping and eating fast food and shutting out the world. Day by day I start to care more about myself again. Somedays I go back to the beginning and get so mad at the world and my ex and all of the bullshit people out there that screw each other over, and then I try to ground myself again and realize with this horrible horrible situation we have gone through there is always a silver lining. We are alive for another chance to be happy again. A different version of happy or even just content. Even the smallest chance is enough of a reason to keep living. Everything I am saying probably sounds like BS but please remember this is coming from a person who has been as low as they ever thought they could be. I was so low and so down. I still have my days but I have hope that someday I will be hopeful and happy again. 

 

February 13, 2020 4:36 pm  #12


Re: Suicidal thoughts

My best depression buster is exercise, preferably out in the fresh air.  

 

February 13, 2020 6:35 pm  #13


Re: Suicidal thoughts

OutofHisCloset wrote:

My best depression buster is exercise, preferably out in the fresh air.  

 

Ditto
 


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February 13, 2020 6:37 pm  #14


Re: Suicidal thoughts

Hi walkbymyself,
I have to admit that during the past 20 years, since my GIDXH told me, "I want to explore my homosexual feelings", there have been numerous times I have had thoughts of "ending this existence".
But almost as quickly as I consider a method, I think of my 2 children, and my resolve weakens. They are adults now, but 20 years ago, they were very vulnerable (daughter 14, son 10). Yes, I write in the present tense, because "those" thoughts still come.
My therapist has told me quite often, "Thoughts & feelings will come, but what you DO will affect many."  I have had many decades of those thoughts, but I don't want to give the nasty, mean-spirited people the satisfaction of winning and saying, "I told you that she was crazy!"
I recall the shock of learning that Robin Williams, a comedian whom I had admired for many years, had committed suicide.  Who of us among the public, knew he suffered so much anguish, for so long?  There was a time when those who had committed suicide were not spoken of, when suicide was a taboo subject.  I am glad that mental health & illness are being recognized and compassion, instead of judgment, are offered.  I am glad because honesty, is healthier than the alternative.  We who have lived for years, sometimes decades, with people we loved & trusted, struggle to accept that we were not loved or trusted.  And of course, this reality, causes us to reassess our lives & futures. And of course, this reassessment will affect our mental-health.
For me, suicide is only 1 way out.  Another, is fighting back by being honest.  I have found that those who cannot cope with my excruciating honesty, are hiding much.  Sometimes, they recognize I am a "safe person" to confide in. Others, who want to maintain a facade, are free to do so.
I realize I have written much. Thank-you, walkbymyself, for honestly sharing your thoughts & feelings with us.  No judgment from me. Compassion & prayers & hugs.  By the way, we, sadly, belong to an ever growing club, so you are not alone.  Shalom, Peace.

 

February 13, 2020 10:11 pm  #15


Re: Suicidal thoughts

Suicidal behavior can become hereditary - not be genes, just by experience. Consider if you want your daughter to follow your example.

 

February 14, 2020 11:06 am  #16


Re: Suicidal thoughts

UserNada wrote:

Suicidal behavior can become hereditary - not be genes, just by experience. Consider if you want your daughter to follow your example.

I have already considered this.  In my post, it was absolutely front and center.

I'm still allowed to comfort myself, though.

I don't always think people understand the point of view of the kids in this situation, and it makes it hard because we project so much.  Kids my daughter's age don't want to come into adulthood learning how much misery their parents endured for their benefit.  They're at an age where they're rebelling a little, and the last thing they want to hear is their mother saying "I would have left this lying theiving gasbag except I had your future to consider."  That's the last thing they want to hear.  For lack of a better phrase, they want to enter young adulthood debt-free.  They don't want to find out they "owe" their parents in any way.

So the last thing my daughter wants to be saddled with is a suicidal mother, and the second-to-last thing she wants to be saddled with is the guilt of knowing her mother has to endure suicidal thoughts, no matter how painful, for a daughter's sake.  You have to embrace the contradiction here, in what my daughter actually wants, rather than what the hypothetical daughter in a Hallmark TV special wants.  My daughter wants two things that are mutually exclusive.

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February 14, 2020 11:51 am  #17


Re: Suicidal thoughts

I understand your situation better than you might realize. I know this is horrible.

 

February 15, 2020 11:03 pm  #18


Re: Suicidal thoughts

I have been muttering "I'm going to kill myself" for years now.

 

 

February 16, 2020 11:20 am  #19


Re: Suicidal thoughts

Thanks, both of you guys, I know we're all in this together.  And, lankylozenge, it really resonates when you say you had to give yourself permission to think about that forbidden thought.

I try to keep my brain focused, but late at night I wake up and I"m so, so, so angry with the judge who pushed the dogshit settlement on me.  He treated me like I was the problem, he didn't believe what I'd tried to show him about my husband's stealing money.  He forced a deal on me like a used-car salesman, the deal memorandum I had to sign said I wasn't under any emotional duress even though I was crying.  It said I had not been pressured into entering into the deal, even though he was repeatedly telling me that the next judge who saw me would be twice as punitive, and that he was saving me from this fate worse than death.  In reality, though, he didn't have my best interest in mind.  He wanted to force any settlement he could get, collect his fee, and leave.

I'm going to be living at a poverty level for the rest of my life, and my husband will enjoy an affluent retirement using the money he stole from me.  I have reminders on an hourly basis of how little money I have available to me, and the problem with "moving on" and keeping my thoughts positive, is that every tiny little reminder of my financial situation is another reminder of how much that judge fucked me over, and how he sided with my crooked lying stealing philandering gasbag of a husband.


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February 16, 2020 2:41 pm  #20


Re: Suicidal thoughts

Hi walkbymyself,   Thank-you very much for broaching what has been a taboo subject in society for much too long: suicide.  Of course, suicide is preceded by thoughts of suicide.  And thoughts of suicide are very much related to mental health.  And mental health is related to feelings of belonging and value.
             When I learned that I had been used by "the father of my children", my self-esteem, my sense of belonging and being valued diminished greatly.  What hurt more was that my mother blamed me for "making him gay".....
            I too have been living below the recognized poverty level in Canada, since 2005. I have come to accept that I will never become a member of the Middle Class again.  The most I can do is live as simply and with as little debt as possible.  Not for me, a vacation in another country.  Not for me a reliable vehicle. Having to walk & take public transit has already reduced my weight by 25lbs.
            As for the "father of my children", he is living the good life, affluent & semi-retired in Nice, France, using the money he hid from me.
I no longer believe in Karma, or people getting what they deserve.... 
I know that when I look in the mirror, I see an honest, hard-working, loving, compassionate, kind person.  I hope that is enough.

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