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February 12, 2020 10:46 pm  #1


Torture or taking my power back?

I'm still living with my GID husband until my lease is up in October. He will say hes going to work out or hanging out with a friend but I know he hooks up with trannies because I know his grinder password. I will share his pictures and convos with those that I've told about my situation so that i can joke and laugh about it. Am I torturing myself or am I trying to take my power back? I feel like I'm taking my power back especially seeing the types of people he will engage with...escorts, those who have addictions. He just loves risky behavior and I feel strong sharing the terrible things he does with people. He would totally flip out if he knew but I get satisfaction out of not caring about his reaction. Am I just as bad?

 

February 13, 2020 7:00 am  #2


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

Hurt,

Snoop..but I found at some point you have to stop..you know what you will find..just more bad stuff.

I told my family it was like a horror show I could not stop watching..  At some point it's a waste of time..your time is better spent on yourself.   

The good side to it,I told my family, is I could often learn my GXs plans and plan my schedule or,sometimes, anticipate her next sick idea.. 

I think,you learned from your work to stay away from him physically.
Its a good tool for the straight spouse with strength to use it..but we do need to realize it cant change anything..in the beginning all it would do is traumatize me and give me the shakes.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

February 13, 2020 7:47 am  #3


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

My trans-identified ex took a lot of selfies when he was all dolled up in women's lingerie and wanking and sent them to me.  I didn't share them with anyone else, but I have told some people about them.  I keep copies of them and sometimes when I am having a bad time or questioning myself about whether I did the right thing I look at them so I remember just what it was like and why I had to leave.

I think maybe you're doing what you are for somewhat the same reason.  I think you need to keep your strength up in a situation you must often feel is unbearable.  Cohabiting while getting your ducks in a row to leave is a daily assault.  Please be careful, however, and stay safe.  If you are showing these profiles pix and chats around to others, it may be only a  matter of time before it gets back to him.  It would be a good idea for you to pack an escape bag and leave it with a friend or family member, just in case.

 

 

February 13, 2020 8:44 am  #4


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

This is just my thought on your question, by no means is it right for everyone. Reliving an event/situation helps us process what is going on, but at some point moving on will allow you to heal. You know what he does who he is meeting and his patterns, why keep reliving it? I would forget the password and start making my own new patterns in life.
Living with them is hard enough.

 

February 13, 2020 9:58 am  #5


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

Hurt, don't let yourself be shamed for snooping.  When it's time to move on, you'll know it.  You'll stop looking of your own accord.

I initially looked at my husband's texts, the first time, because I was trying to unravel the truth behind an incident that had occurred over a year earlier, before I knew anything about his secret.  My daughter had come home from college on winter break and when she went to get into bed, she discovered a condom wrapper in her bed.  I had changed the sheets myself, so I was the only person who knew how impossible it was for this thing to be in her bed ... it defied the laws of physics, and yet there it was.

So fast forward about 18 months, and I saw a text alert pop up on my husband's phone, that led me to realize he could have been having sex in that bedroom with a prostitute.  That's why I opened the phone and read the full conversation, and that's when I first understood that my husband spent hours on end every day setting up assignations with male prostitutes.  As I read the text thread, it was between my husband and two sex workers, and one of them asked the other how he and my husband had met.  The other sex worker responded "we met at a birthday party for a fifteen year old" and that absolutely made my blood run cold.  I shut off the phone, but was so tormented by this thought, that this could actually mean not a real "birthday party" but something else more likely to be frequented by a 62-year-old john and a sex worker.

I make no apologies for reading my husband's texts after that moment.  I tried, later, to use what limited chances I could get, to go back and figure out whether I could have made a mistake, or mis-read the texts or something, but at the time, it sounded like everybody in the conversation knew exactly how the phrase was being used.

I learned a lot about my husband.  In the beginning, I was just trying to understand whether I'd seen what i though I'd seen.  Over the next few months, I started snapping photos of texts that documented prostitution (for the divorce).  But after a while, it was just my trying to fully understand the man who had manipulated me for so much of my life, and for that I make no apologies whatsoever.  I have a lot to be ashamed of, and a lot to be humiliated over, but not that.

 

February 13, 2020 10:31 am  #6


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

Each of you make very good points. I guess I snoop because it reminds me that this situation is very real. I cant pretend that it's not happening as I once did. It also serves as a constant reminder that its imperative that I get out of this situation when the time comes. I also try to laugh and joke at this stuff because it keeps me from crying about it as I do every now and again. I feel he humiliated me so I supposed this is my way to do it in return and not to say that it's the right thing to do. I also am documenting all of this for the divorce that I'm going to file for when we go our separate ways and we have 2 small children (3 yr old and 1 yr old) and I wont be able to live peacefully unless I have full custody and he has supervised visits. I just dont trust his judgement at all. He would have prostitutes visit while my kids are there and possibly doing drugs while they are home. I snooped again last night and I saw him asking for "T" which apparently is a street name for crystal meth. Its popular with trans escorts apparently. I keep this all safe by having a secure password on my phone and i share it with my family which would never get back to him. @walk - how did your documentation help in your divorce? Your children were already grown up but did it make it easier/quicker?

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February 13, 2020 10:36 am  #7


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

It didn't help, it backfired.  I don't know what kind of laws are in effect where you are, but California has "no fault".  So while the law does provide that I should be reimbursed for money he spent illegally, if a judge suspects you're just making the claim out of spite or vindictiveness, they'll really punish you.  We went to a negotiated settlement conference, and the judge was clearly THAT kind of judge.  If I'd known, I wouldn't have even brought it up.

 

February 13, 2020 10:49 am  #8


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

Yikes, I'm in NY so it is also a no fault state. Although it might not help with the divorce, I'm really praying that it will help me get full custody of my children.

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February 13, 2020 11:56 am  #9


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

My opinion - if you're suspicious about something, a certain amount of snooping is in order.  It's not like they're ever going to come out and tell us anything.  I think once you have confirmed what you thought, it's counter-productive to your well being and self-esteem to keep looking for more evidence, especially if you have already made a plan about what you are going to do. 

When I first became suspicious (cross-dressing husband), I started a diary about exactly what happened and how it made me feel.  Over the past two years, this has been invaluable to me.  When he says "that never happened", all I have to do is look back and see, yes, it did.  It also serves as a reminder of the destruction and havoc he caused to my life. 

My understanding of divorce courts is that most judges don't care what either party did.  Having evidence will probably get you nothing, not even sympathy.  

 

February 13, 2020 1:10 pm  #10


Re: Torture or taking my power back?

I snooped. Made me feel ill but was something I felt I had to do.

Then one day I didn't have that same feeling of needing to know....because I realised it changed nothing, just made me feel ill. He has a new phone...I don't touch it, when he texts me I don't reply. It was a bad experience of receiving a text meant for somebody else and to ignore his texts is better for my resolve to end this.

Forget his password, make yourself not use it. Tell yourself...It does not matter anymore. The longer you talk to others about his actions....the longer you stay tied to him. Your power is in not feeling you have to laugh at him, it's not caring, finally, about what he does

Elle


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