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October 3, 2019 4:08 pm  #1


Angry at him and myself

Hey,
I'm a dumbass.  Today I found a gay bi hook up site on his computer again almost 4 years after the first time.  WTF.  So mad i was shaking.  I'm stupid and I knew he would never be honest with me.  I need to see a lawyer and figure this out.  But our lives are intertwined with a business that does not at the moment make any money but is likely to be very profitable in the future.  We've invested a lot of money into it and I've been financially supporting him this whole time.  If I leave him he will need to dissolve the business due to not being able to support himself and I will lose a lot of money.  I am in a really bad position at the moment.  Do I spill the beans that I know and let him lie to me and cover up with excuses because visiting a website is not proof of cheating so he'll just lie and say it was a pop up.  
Vicky


 
 

October 3, 2019 4:18 pm  #2


Re: Angry at him and myself

I would not spill the beans without getting more info..

A few questions to guide you...

Can you dissolve the business and move on and support yourself? Can you take the hit short term?

If he deceived you about this how can you trust him to be honest with the business?

I’ve started to hear of divorce coaches. Can you talk to one? Do you have a business mentor that can guide you? It seems a mediator or attorney familiar with shared  businesses in a divorce could help?

Given your reaction - if you stay, you will invest a lot of emotional energy in an attempt to recoup the money? Is it worth it?

Hope this helps,

ADSJ

Last edited by a_dads_straight_journey (October 3, 2019 4:19 pm)

 

October 3, 2019 5:15 pm  #3


Re: Angry at him and myself

Say nothing to him but do consult an attorney about divorce, if you are married to him, and what to do about the business. He does not sound like a good business partner if he's keeping secrets from you.

You might want to make sure he is not taking money that you do not know about by checking all accounts very carefully.


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October 3, 2019 5:18 pm  #4


Re: Angry at him and myself

Hi Adsj
I guess we could but since he would then have no job I would need to still support him.  Then his income would be less than mine so I'd need to pay child support and spousal support as well so I'd be pretty damn poor.  I think a lawyer visit is in my future.  I've never heard of a divorce coach so I'll need to check on that one.  No business mentor but I'm sure a lawyer would be able to figure it out.  It's been a long struggle with this business so I don't want to throw in the towel on it.  Besides the business I'm so fucking mad at him and I can't do anything about it today.  I mean what are the chances he's going to a gay hookup site to exchange cookie recipes. FFS


 
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October 3, 2019 6:50 pm  #5


Re: Angry at him and myself

vicky wrote:

Hey, I'm a dumbass. You are not!!! Today I found a gay bi hook up site on his computer again almost 4 years after the first time.  I used to check my partner's laptop, until the furtiveness of doing it made me so angry at myself that I MADE MYSELF stop it. It was really hard at first but I found the mantra "it doesn't matter what I find, it's the fact I have to look that makes it not matter" so I go nowhere near his laptop now, refuse to use it even when it's something benign, like checking out a Motogp race at his suggestion. I just say "no thanks"  WTF.  So mad i was shaking.  I'm stupid and I knew he would never be honest with me.  I need to see a lawyer and figure this out.  But our lives are intertwined Surely this is exactly why you should be seeing a lawyer? with a business that does not at the moment make any money but is likely to be very profitable in the future.  We've invested a lot of money into it and I've been financially supporting him this whole time.  If I leave him he will need to dissolve the business due to not being able to support himself and I will lose a lot of money.  I am in a really bad position at the moment.  Do I spill the beans that I know No you don't tell him. I found a lawyer, (asked for a female) and intend to gather bank statements to go with my will and the pre-nup we signed years ago that I have ready for my next app. with her. I also intend to rewrite my will and let him lie to me and cover up with excuses because visiting a website is not proof of cheating so he'll just lie and say it was a pop up.  If you don't ask questions....he won't have to lie. Even if he tells the truth...you'll doubt his word so just repeat to yourself "it doesn't matter that he lies" and just get on with making that lawyers appointment.
Vicky

 

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October 3, 2019 7:02 pm  #6


Re: Angry at him and myself

As far as I know there are no particular qualifications or licensing to become a "divorce counselor." Having been deceived once I suggestion is that you stick with licensed professionals: an attorney for the legal end, a CPA for financials and an appropriately licensed mental health professional for your sanity.

A well-meaning person who is in over his or her head can waste your money and time and possibly cause you to do things that ultimately are to your detriment. Having been too long already in the relationship the sooner and smoother you can move on the better.


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October 3, 2019 7:44 pm  #7


Re: Angry at him and myself

Definitely go seek some legal advice. Child support is intended to be a way for the parent without the primary custody to fulfill their obligations to their kids. Unless he has the primary caregiver role, I don't see why you would be providing this. Spousal support is situational. Why he has little to no income can affect this. If he focused on the business start-up or was a stay-at-home Dad then he can argue that it affected his career development and prospects. On the other hand, if he just didn't want to work or put much effort into it, that's a consideration against spousal support. It should also have an end date of whatever might be considered "enough" time to get back into the market with skills. After that it's just division of assets to create equalization. If the time frame to business success allows it, maybe one of you can buy the other one out? There may be a number of ways to approach this and it never hurts to be a bit more informed about these things. Good luck with whatever you choose.

p.s. I'm pretty much on the same page as others who don't see much point in confrontation if all it means is denial. I don't think that's great for your own mental health and I think you've mentioned before that he emotional manipulates these situations.


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― Joe Strummer
 

October 4, 2019 9:16 am  #8


Re: Angry at him and myself

I didn't say anything to him.  As mentioned by others and myself what is the point.  He has been working hard on our business of which we are both owners, he's a lot of things but lazy is not one of them.  I can't help wondering what he is up to on the computer, I tried to snoop a bit but he is probably using a vpn to hide what he's doing.  I have a question for anyone who is tech savvy.  Why use a VPN and not a hidden browser.  The only difference I can tell is that a VPN hides activity from outside users and lets you visit sites banned by your government.  An incognito window only lets you hide from people within the house (not from governments or Google) and also doesn't let you visit restricted websites.  He watches a lot of porn, is it to have access to a wider variety of porn?
 


 
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October 4, 2019 11:32 am  #9


Re: Angry at him and myself

"only difference I can tell is that a VPN hides activity from outside users and lets you visit sites banned by your government."

VPN and Tor are typically used for dark web, yes.

"An incognito window only lets you hide from people within the house (not from governments or Google) and also doesn't let you visit restricted websites." 

Incog browser windows can be viewed by many simple snooper apps.

"He watches a lot of porn, is it to have access to a wider variety of porn?"

Likely. VPN can be free (they are sketchy, but out there) and offer complete anonymity.

VPN is a cause for concern, both in security and what he is viewing.

Sorry to hear this is all happening.

 

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