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April 8, 2019 6:54 pm  #1


This is not a typical betrayal

No one understands what a straight spouse goes through. Most people will ask you to treat it like a typical infidelity. Or they will tell you that marriage is not just about sex. No one understands us but us. What we go through is mourning the death of a spouse you used to love. Who is still alive and is standing in front of you physically but the spouse you loved is not there anymore.

You feel betrayed, angry, compassionate, sad, devastated. You find yourself crying while standing in the grocery line. Then a minute later you’re so mad, mad at yourself for not seeing the signs. One minute later, you’re feeling the loss with every cell of your body.

What’s worse is that, you will be the one who has to decide to end the marriage or not. Not only you are losing the life you thought you’ve planned for rest of your life, but you will be the one to pull the plug on it. There are thousands of books and articles on people who come out of closet. They will celebrate them for finally coming out. But no one thinks about the straight spouse who is coming out of their own closet.

Just sharing my thoughts to let you know that I feel you, if you are going through what I’m going through. 7 months post discovery and I now have less dark days. It does get better. Grieve the loss, treat it as death of a loved one. Don’t be hard on yourself. Just show up one day at a time, and soon enough you will have more clear mind to think better. Get yourself out of the rabbit hole.

Moving on.

 

April 9, 2019 5:58 am  #2


Re: This is not a typical betrayal

I can as we al can emphasize. I am glad to have found this place because as you said everyone says wag to go when they come to terms with who they are but we are left here like now what? And I hear the same from some that he is still him just a little more feminine and he isn’t getting surgery so you should be thankful for that. Thankful that we wear the same u darwear and makeup? Thankful that he looks like a woman with a small chest that will get bigger? Thankful that I shudder st social gatherings. Thankful that we have a 5 year old who if it wasn’t for her I would have skipped out when I knew about the hormones. I too am angry because of course he still loves me so he’s like a makle lesbian but love is not always enough. He says I could find outside men if I need that for the physical desires but despite my pool of men I would sleep with right now it’s like I have to have mental emotional attachment which he doesn’t want me to have with them. It’s so devastating

 

April 9, 2019 7:40 am  #3


Re: This is not a typical betrayal

SS1979,
 I heard a useful reframing of the idea that you stay for your child(ren).  You don't STAY for them; you LEAVE for them.  To protect them, to provide them with a better role model than being someone who tolerates what is intolerable to you, to show them how to set self-protective boundaries.  And while you probably won't be able to prevent her father from seeing her, during the time she lives with you she is protected from being warped by his infatuation with himself as a woman, and of being used as a prop in his feminizing activities (in "Sex Changes" by Christine Benvenuto, she talks about how her husband co-opted their daughter in this way).  
   I also have to ask: why should you even consider this deal of accepting a husband who doesn't want to be a husband and getting sexual satisfaction from a man who wants to be a man outside of marriage, even though this isn't what you want and isn't your idea of marriage?  Kel has spoken beautifully recently of intimacy and marriage: it's what makes marriage unlike other social arrangements.  If you're still married to your husband, but not having sex with him, and getting it outside of marriage, then it's really not a marriage but some other arrangement masquerading as marriage.  
   People who tell you that what your husband is doing "is no big deal" and you "should be thankful" he's not getting surgery have no idea what they're talking about: hormones don't just change the body; they change temperament and personality.  Don't listen to these people. There are plenty of women who've been married to men like yours (and my ex) who know what they're talking about and have written about it.   Please visit  https://naefearty.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/gas-mark-six/  and read the comments.  It'll help you feel better.

 Here's a segment from her post:
       My sense of self, and my belief that I was entitled to set limits or boundaries was gradually eroded as the TRANS STUFF came to dominate and shape every corner of my life. I never knew where or when the next assault to my psyche was going to come, and so I existed for a long time in a state of hyper vigilance. That is, until such time as my ability to dissociate kicked in.I know from observing trans support groups that many of these men say, “My wife is fine with it – she just doesn’t want to talk about it or see it”.Many women are surviving through disassociation. Let’s not forget that a well-orchestrated and financed propaganda machine surrounds these men. It has the effect of silencing not just those of us who oppose on ideological principles, but all women who are within these relationships who question the idea that these men are ” women trapped inside men’s bodies “, or who’s lives have been ripped apart by these men.I know from bitter experience of reaching out, that the primary concern is for the welfare of the trans partner, who must never be questioned as the most oppressed creature to walk this planet.This is a double whammy to those women experiencing abuse, intensive gaslighting, and erasure of their right to name their reality and to set boundaries. There is no such thing as a line in the sand when it comes to trans desire. He gota have what he gotta have.

Last edited by OutofHisCloset (April 9, 2019 8:09 am)

 

April 10, 2019 10:45 am  #4


Re: This is not a typical betrayal

SS1979

The people who tell you that you should be thankful your situation is not worse, won’t stay a single second in their marriages if it were them. And sometimes people think by minimizing your situation they help you. Or they give you examples of people in worse situation. Yes thank god I’m not in a war zone or dying from hunger but can I be devastated that my marriage is over and it’s not a typical divorce? I also have to keep a secret and pretend we are separating because we just grew apart!

Give yourself time to grieve. It’s very important that you let yourself go through the emotions and don’t question them. Feeling angry is normal. You still love each other but you are angry at this situation.

I still love my husband and want him to be happy. truly. But they need to support us emotionally as well. They need to take responsibility for what impact they have made on our lives. It’s really 2 people coming out of the closet.

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