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April 5, 2019 11:03 am  #1


Here I am...

Background...I am 39 years old, married for almost 10 years together with him for 20 years and we have a 5 year old daughter. Things were never really rosy with him and I because we started out on a wrong footing because my gram who raised me died in 6/99 and we started dating in 9/99 and my pap moved out with his new gf in 11/99 so i had to move in with my now husband or be homeless. So I have this loyalty issue with him and guilt. From the start it has been rocky. His stepfather sexually molested him which i found out when we were intimate in 1999. In 2002 we had a court case against his step father which was a year of depositions going into our sexual life and relationship issues. Then in 2005/2006 he didnt know if he wanted me. 2013 we almost divorced and he tricked me into getting pregnant and here I am. He in the past has cross dressed some but said it was because of trying to compensate for what happened to him which his therapist agreed with. This summer he started taking estrogen and states that he is transgender. This has really brought me into a dive of depression. He looks too feminine and behaves too feminine. He wears women earrings which he says is because his ear holes need to be fixed that, he wears foundation the same as I do. He wears women underwear and socks and his jeans are like those tight flair jeans. He walks more feminine than I do. Anyway. Just because he doesnt want surgery he thinks its all good but I mean heck if i dont have a push up bra on his chest is getting to be the same size as mine. His hands are softer than mine are. I just feel like I have no testosterone in my life. I have no support. I just feel like im living inside my own ghost. 

 

April 5, 2019 11:38 am  #2


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    I'm so sorry you have this in your life, but this is a place where you can come and say whatever you need to say.  Those of us here who've been through the experience you're living understand what it is like.  
   You need to know that there is nothing wrong with you or the feelings you are having about your husband's behavior.  The discomfort you feel over his fixation on femininity, the doubts his behavior and changes raise in your about your own femininity and desires for a man who embraces and is comfortable in his maleness--these are, unfortunately, entirely normal reactions to the situation you are in.  Furthermore, if you believe that his feminizing activities will cause confusion and distress in your daughter, you have an obligation to protect her.  Change should be introduced deliberately and under the supervision of a therapist who can keep tabs on her feelings.  
   The situation of being with a man who gradually amps up the feminizing activities can be likened to being that proverbial frog in a pot of hot water--the changes are incremental and redefine normal, so that you don't notice that you're being boiled.  Until you do.
   Your feeling that you are "living inside [your] own ghost" is your body and mind telling you just what a toll this situation is taking on you. 
    There is nothing wrong with your reaching the conclusion that the changes your husband has introduced into your marriage are not acceptable to you and causing you pain, or that you need to think about ways to put some distance between the two of you, even if only temporarily, to get some needed perspective on your situation, and decide whether it's something you can live with or not.  It's very difficult to make those kinds of decisions while immersed in the crazy.
   As for any lingering feelings of guilt and loyalty, from what you say it sounds as if those have long been discharged.  You stood by him when he initiated the court case against his step father, you testified in a deposition, and you endured the pain of his telling you in 2005/6 that he wasn't sure he "wanted" you.  Add to that his tricking you into pregnancy, and it seems the person you should be feeling guilt is not you but him.  
   If there are friends and/or family you can confide in, and/or stay with, it would be very helpful for you, as would speaking to a therapist and to your doctor.  You don't have to, and shouldn't, carry this all alone.   
  

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April 5, 2019 4:26 pm  #3


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Thank you for responding. 
I do not see a therapist. I have a hard time spending the money. He is getting 2,000 worth of laser hair removal for his face. He has gotten his teeth whitened which was 1400.00 with all his cavities he had to fix before having that done. Even though he sold stock to have all this done I still feel uncomfortable spending money since the money would be a daily expense not cashing out stocks. My co pay is quite costly. 
I have no family to stay with. I asked him to stay with his mom who lives like five minutes away for a few weeks but he refuses to do so. Says he does not trust me to watch our daughter myself because he thinks i get short with her. The times I may do that is because of stress of his being around which he does not believe. 
So, i am stuck here with him. We have had separate rooms since my daughter was born because at first it was easier to share shifts and sleep but he snores and it was just much nicer not have to deal with that since I have insomnia as it is and take ambien to sleep. That has also been a progressively worse thing as well as increasing doses of wellbutrin over the past few years. 

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April 5, 2019 7:01 pm  #4


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SS1979, 
   I've read all your responses on the various threads her in the support section, and I observe that you have offered a lot of reasons why you can't do anything, while saying a lot about what your husband is doing, including spending LOTS of money in pursuit of his idea of himself as a woman.  Just because he believes he has the right to tell you what you can do (satisfy yourself elsewhere) doesn't make that true, or your only option.  He does not have the right to dictate to you the terms of the marriage, although doing so is common with these transgender men, who are so entitled that they believe they can change the terms of the marriage--essentially voiding your marriage contract--and you are obligated to adjust and to stay.  You are reeling on the ropes and are not able to see that he does not have all the power; nor he does not have the right or the power to define or order what will be.  You are in REACT or FREEZE mode, and you need to shift your thinking to ACT mode.  
  One, if you are married, you have LEGAL RIGHTS, and this includes to MONEY and PENSION funds.  So you need to stop thinking in terms of "he's spending a lot of money to pursue his desired self/body so I can't go out and see a therapist to help me."   You need to learn how to reframe and talk back to your thoughts.  
  I have seen advice from a transwoman who said, in essence, "This doesn't change, this doesn't "get better" or "go away," and your spouse will dissipate ALL your assets in pursuit of what is driving him, so PROTECT YOURSELF FINANCIALLY."  You do this by VISITING A LAWYER and finding out what your rights are, and how to stop the hemorrhage of money that dissipates marital assets, half of which you are likely to discover you are legally entitled to.  
   Here's one thing I discovered: once I left my now ex, my anxiety and stress decreased, which meant I slept better.  

 

April 6, 2019 12:55 pm  #5


Re: Here I am...

SS1979, even if you haven't decided about issues like divorce or separation, you can still get a support order.  This would allow you to segregate your share of marital assets.  


Relinquere fraudator, vitam lucrari.
 

April 6, 2019 6:53 pm  #6


Re: Here I am...

SS1979, 
I posted this in response to one of your posts in another thread, but I'll post it here, too. 

It sounds like he has put several non-negotiable constraints on your marriage and you've really tried very hard to work with these even when you weren't consulted and/or your feelings weren't taken into account.  What are your non-negotiable needs?  If you did the equivalent or equal to what he is doing, do you think he would work as hard to accomodate you?  It's no wonder you feel angry, hurt, and depressed, this sounds like a pretty one-sided arrangement.  

I've been there, so I don't mean to sound quite as harsh as perhaps it does.  When one spouse can be accomodating and really wants to give things a chance in the face of such adamant and even "done-deal" needs of the other, it's hard to decide where the line is.  Was it once hormones?   Was it clothing?  Was it sex?  Where will the line be in the future?  You can only take deep stock for yourself and maybe with a therapist (not his gender oriented therapist - get your own!) to decide where you want to be and what will work for you. 

I firmly agree - talk to a lawyer!  My experience was that I was so caught up in the emotional and just plain logistical issues I wasn't always thinking clearly about legal ones.  I found a great lawyer who basically made it clear off the bat (only much more subtle and with kinder words) that she was there for me for legal advice so I'd know my rights under the law and could negotiate a fair separation of assets; she wasn't there to hear about how obnoxious and hurtful he was, how emotionally devastated I felt, or anything else.  Thing is, that's exactly the reality-based perspective I needed (and also the role of a lawyer).  Find out what your legal options are and how you can protect yourself financially. Then if/when you make the emotional decisions you'll be on solid ground in terms of resources.  I'm sure it doesn't feel like it right now, but you have rights and can take action to protect some necessities. 


 

 

April 6, 2019 7:47 pm  #7


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I want to echo what Calamity has said -- right now, the hurt is so raw that even getting through one day or one night is like climbing a mountain, and you have no way of knowing what is in your future.

But one thing you can do is to stop and ask yourself what your line in the sand would be.  You can prepare yourself for the worst by giving it a name and facing it.  This marriage that you have right now -- if you'd known a year or two or three back this is what you're getting yourself into, would you have chosen this path?  What if this isn't the "end point" but is only halfway there?


Relinquere fraudator, vitam lucrari.
 

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