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February 23, 2019 12:46 am  #1


Scheduling my breakdowns

I texted my friend today and asked if she could meet me for coffee at 3 PM because I needed to fall apart.

I realize that might sound odd, but my marriage is ending and the only reason its ending is because I'm pushing him to admit what he truly wants. I can't fall apart in front of him. He can barely handle his own shit. I'm good at compartmentalizing so I can wait. I can schedule time for myself to fall apart, to mourn this relationship that I'm playing an active role in destroying because I love him that much.

It's so unfair that I have to do this. I don't want to do this. I love him. But I can't live with myself staying because I know he'll never have the courage to end it.

But then the questions come. What if it doesnt lead him to a better life? What if he still can't be the person he wants to be? What if he marries another woman? What if he is alone for the rest of his life? And God help me, what if he tries to take his own life?

Wouldnt it be better to stay together than to face any of that? We do love each other. We are good together. Not all of it is a lie.

I know I won't do that to him. I will let him go but I'm so scared. I'm scared for him and I'm terrified about what will happen when he's gone and I have to face my own grief.

I just don't know if I'm doing the right thing. Thank you for listening.

 

February 23, 2019 8:45 am  #2


Re: Scheduling my breakdowns

   It's a good impulse, that you asked your friend for help and support, and will serve you well as you come to terms with the (inevitable) grief.  Maybe you already have a therapist, but if not, I would suggest that strategy as well.  A therapy session is a safe space for "falling apart," and, equally as important, a therapist can also help you with patterns and habits like compartmentalization that may have served you well as a survival strategy but could be detrimental to rebuilding your life.  

   It really is unfair that you have to be the one to do what he has not had the courage to do.  I also had to do that--to make the choice to end the marriage. What you are doing by leaving is forcing the issue by changing the circumstances.  Your hope is that when he can't hide with you any more, he will be forced to reckon with himself, and in doing that, determine to live an honest, open, fulfilled life. 

   What you may have to come to terms with going forward is that whatever action you have taken in order to allow him (force him?) to be open and honest about himself may not in fact result in his being honest.  He might indeed marry another woman.  He might indeed be alone the rest of his life.  He might choose to live a closeted life with under-the-radar hookups.  A man who is used to living in a closet and who has spent a lifetime developing that coping skills and acquiring the personality traits that come from a closeted life may continue to want to cling to his closet.  He may even resent and blame you for disturbing the self protective closeted life he's constructed, rather than seeing what you've been willing to do for him as a sacrifice or a gift. 

  The sad fact is that although we may give them the opportunity, they might not take it, because they must want for themselves to come out.  It's like anything else: you can make all the space you can for someone to make a decision and take a step forward, but you cannot take the step for them: they have to want that for themselves and to have the courage to take it.

     You cannot control what he does going forward, and learning to accept that is a valuable lesson.  What he chooses to do is on him.  It's his life to live, his decisions to make.  If he's like my ex, he'll somehow believe that he can't come out, and he'll rationalize this belief and his inability by saying it's not really a possibility, he's not making a choice, but merely reacting to the hand dealt to him by a prejudiced society.  His failure to come out will not be his fault, but the fault of....you name it. 

     And just as his life is his to live, your life is yours to live.  You know the situation as is is untenable.  You value honesty; you want both of you to live an honest life.  You can't control whether he chooses to do so, but you do control you.  You go live an honest, authentic life, and hold your head high for choosing to do so, and for standing up for honesty and openness.   

Last edited by OutofHisCloset (February 23, 2019 8:55 am)

 

February 23, 2019 10:22 pm  #3


Re: Scheduling my breakdowns

Olebeecharmer, 

Here is what I had to remind myself over the past year or so (much more so over the past few months. I married a man I thought not only invested in our marriage, but also intelligent, resourceful, and emotionally aware and sensitive.  Fact is, the only part that really fell apart was the bit about being emotionally invested in our marriage once he realized he was trans. 

Nothing else changed, even though I felt like it had.  I know that sounds like spitting in bucket in terms of big, meaningful changes, but he/she remained a resourceful, intelligent person. He had emotionally withdrawn and left many financial and legal things to me, but that was laziness and preoccupation, not inability.   I think in some ways this made it seem to me (and him) that he was more dependent on me than he actually was.  He could, in fact, cook well, do laundry, go to work, go shopping, and pay bills, he just left much of that to me.  He wasn't nearly as inept as the number of tasks I did as a rule indicated.  

Like you, I want him (I use "him" because that is how I knew my spouse) to be happy.  I want him to live a good life.  I've finally realized, though, that our paths have diverged because of his needs.  Am I 100% certain it will all work out?  No.  Do I think he has a very difficult and likely painful path ahead?  Yes.  I don't envy him by any means.  I'm not even sure he took the easy way out.

I sometimes desperately miss the man I married but I've come to realize that person isn't there or an option anymore. During the course of our separation I've very willingly offered several agreements, mostly financial, that friends and even my lawyer have told me are above and beyond.  I did this because I didn't wish him undue failure.  

I do still very much love the man he was and it's a process to realize fully that that man is gone.  

Where I'm going with this is to say that at some point you have to recognize when/if he has opted to exit your relationship.  At that point, you need to place at least equal importance on taking care of and providing for yourself.  If things do end, you need to have finances and logistics in order. 

In retrospect, things had been spiralling downhill and out for over a year, but during that time I hung on for all I was worth.   I read books on how to be a good and accepting wife, I practiced mindfulness to accept what was, I practiced gratitude our relationship, but none of it was enough to stop his movement away.  In some regards I was in good legal and financial shape when we eventually split up, but in other regards I wish I'd done more. 

Remember, you likely married a man you thought comepant, resourceful, and smart.  He may not have acted that way at all recently, but he has not lost those abilities.  

He might not find the life he wants, he might not become the person he wants to be, the world might simply not allow him his dreams, but for how many of us has it?  He will find ways to cope and learn and strive.  If he doesn't, that's not your problem.  

It's really, really hard to stop being willing to intervene and help when it's the person you loved getting themselves into dire straits.  It's just also so important to realize when you stop being to them what they are to you. 

Take care of yourself and trust that he will find his way.  

 

February 23, 2019 10:28 pm  #4


Re: Scheduling my breakdowns

 I just noticed your exact wording:  "He can barely handle his own shit. I'm good at compartmentalizing so I can wait."

I said this far more times than I can count.  Don't let your own coping abilities delay meeting your own needs and plans.  

It turned out I was, in fact, far better at him in the logistics of him moving out, getting a lawyer, and working through the divorce system. I'm generally very pragmatic and a "get s%&t done" kind of person.  This helped in many regards but it didn't negate my need to deal with the loss of our marriage. 

Take care of yourself. 

 

February 24, 2019 1:01 am  #5


Re: Scheduling my breakdowns

Thank you both for your kind words and advice. I can't express how important it is for me to hear them.

Calamity, you are so right that he is still capable and intelligent. We had our first logistics talk tonight and I was amazed that he had already begun to think about a lot of things that he would normally have avoided. I asked him if he could at least come out to our friends so I wouldn't have to make up some vague nonsense about why we are splitting up. To my surprise he said yes. That tells me that this is truly what he wants and needs and I think, I hope he will okay.

I am not quite sure how to take care of myself right now. I have spent so long in anticipation of this moment and now that its here I can't even figure out how to feel.

I will be looking for a therapist and keeping my friends close for sure.

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February 24, 2019 6:42 pm  #6


Re: Scheduling my breakdowns

Olebee, 

Scheduling your breakdowns, I love that.  I wish I was THAT organized with mine!  

Take care of yourself.  Compartmentalize his shit as his shit.  You can hope he will be okay, but he may not.  But it is not your responsibility as much as you may love the man you married, he has changed and you are ending the relationship.  As Calamity so rightly points out....he is not that man anymore.  Things have changed.  That is great that he is willing to admit to friends why you are splitting.  That is huge.  Your loss is also huge and you need all the space and time you can get to process this difficult stage in your life.  Wishing you all the best. 
 
 

 

February 24, 2019 11:18 pm  #7


Re: Scheduling my breakdowns

Olebee, 

I'm so glad to hear he was willing to tell friends why your are splitting up.  This is huge and helpful and takes a burden off you.  It's also public, so that comes with its own challenges and sense of finality.  

As ways diverge you may not know what to think, how to feel, or how to cope. This is an enormous and difficult change; it's not the future you imagined or planned for.  While this is going on you can wish him the best, you can be cordial adults about splitting up, but you do also need your own therapist and your own sources of support.  It's rough but you will get through it. 

After my ex left I actually packed up all of his stuff in boxes. (I had been feeling ill every time he came "just to pick up some stuff" and resolved to put a stop to it.)   I found the boxing up remarkably cathartic.  I even labeled the boxes and took photos of each label (in case it ever became a legal issue).  I found a moving company that would happily move his stuff to his new apartment and distinctly gathered from the very nice lady who managed the company that this was far from the first time they had handled such a situation. 

I'm a nurse, I work with patients in far worse shape than me every day and my own personal stuff can't ever enter into things, so I really had to compartmentalize.  I just couldn't go in to work and collapse or be anything other than my best.  I don't think compartmentalizing is bad, I do think holding it together at work is good (my boss did offer me time off when I told her, but I felt like being at work was better than sitting at home and trying to cope, so long as I was able to do so).  That doesn't mean ignoring is a good idea, you do have to deal with it, it will be challenging, and you need and deserve all the support you can get.  So hold together what you can and schedule those break downs!
 

 

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