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December 14, 2018 5:09 pm  #21


Re: same sex attractions/sexual addiction.........opinions & ideas please

I have the perspective of leaving and divorcing with the discovery of my GH, ITC, TH and am about 2 months past initial discovery. While still living together he is visiting public cruising spots and lying that he hasn't been doing so, leaving trails of cruising websites on line. Displaying anger and displeasure at having to make a support arrangement for our divorce. It is confusing in the least, and disrespectful in the most since my expectation was to be married to a heterosexual. It is like meeting someone I didn't know after 18 years of marriage for the first time. And it explains so much that was missing in the last 5 years - and in retrospect throughout our marriage. I am focusing on myself, learning about co-dependancy, moving out (in 6 weeks-packing now), have secured a new lease, moving close to my children who are supporting me 100%. The hiding-lying-passive/aggressive behaviour is too much for me to handle. I respect myself and understand my boundaries. I wish you the best while going through this difficult journey and can only say "put yourself first" and "be kind to yourself". None of this is your fault.

 

December 31, 2018 12:14 am  #22


Re: same sex attractions/sexual addiction.........opinions & ideas please

My GH continues to rationalize his behavior/actions daily to me & my grown children. My opinion is, he is 50 not a teenager, repeated googling images of celebrities bodies, haircuts, etc (mostly men) is not the norm. I view it as more of an obsession. He sees a guy on a commercial & googles images of him. He tells the children & I his psychologist says we all lust after people & as long as he’s not acting on it, it’s not an addiction. Even says the psychologist told him he lusts after certain singers, but if one dropped in his lap, he’d walk away.

Although we are living in the same house at this time due to finances, job situations and such, I am continuing to prepare for being apart when these issues are worked out.  I know this is all bullsh**.   This “sexual addiction” specialist/professional my GH is seeing 2hrs/week & has seen 4hrs/week a few times at a rate of $150/hr would probably tell him anything he wanted to hear to keep collecting that type of pay. My GH is so gullible he believes anything anyone tells him anyway, and in this situation if it’s what he wants to hear, hes probably eating that up!

I know therapists are generally neutral/nonjudgmental in their meetings, but can any of you other members see a problem with this view from a counselor?  This is the GH who has been masturbating in truck stop lots, campground showers, rest stops, etc.  It doesn’t change my view one bit when he validated his behavior as being normal because the Dr says so, but this seems F’d up for a legitimate therapist to even say. (No one other than my GH heard the therapist say these things, but I don’t doubt he did since my GH continues to see him. If he didn’t hear what he wanted to, he probably wouldn’t keep going!).

Other opinions would be appreciated on this issue.
Thanks!

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December 31, 2018 7:53 am  #23


Re: same sex attractions/sexual addiction.........opinions & ideas please

Control,
 I'm not a therapist, nor am I credentialed in psychology.  I did a quick search online, and discovered that to become a certified therapist in sex addiction you must already have some therapist credentials (there are a number of fields that credential for therapy, including Nursing, Sociology, and Psychology).  The training is to my eyes a pretty short course: four weeks of approximately 40 hours of training.  I have no idea what evidence-based research says about such therapy (is it effective? based on sound scientific rsearch?), but I do know that therapists, like other practitioners in other fields, vary widely in their personalities and competence.  So it could be your husband's therapist, yes; but it equally could be what your husband is telling you his therapist says.  In the long run, though, the real question is "Is the situation in your marriage acceptable to you?"  If you are planning to end the marriage, maybe your working strategy ought to be to avoid becoming entangled in your husband's attempts to engage (gaslight or confuse) you; these attempts are justifications on his part meant to wear down your resolve (and preserve his closeted life).  

 

January 4, 2019 9:37 am  #24


Re: same sex attractions/sexual addiction.........opinions & ideas please

OH Control, that is so annoying when it is all about you and they are just silent.  I hated that.....!!  So much.  How can I help?  Whatabout talking to me about the truth for once!  I asked for honest timelines once mine admitted to an affair with a woman.  It took him wanting info on me to admit to 25-26 hookups with men....and yet for over a year he was all Mr. Nice guy - let's get past this....omg what can I do?  Jesus... talk to a counsellor yourself maybe?  

 

January 4, 2019 9:39 am  #25


Re: same sex attractions/sexual addiction.........opinions & ideas please

Oh and I had a therapist who nearly wet herself when I asked her to see us both.  She was so excited to work on his sex addiction....and guess what he said when I suggested he go..."IF IT WILL HELP YOU...!!!"  That's when I realised that there was never going to be a conversation when this wasn't about me!  Denial is so thick on him....  needless to say, I got another therapist....

 

January 6, 2019 12:23 am  #26


Re: same sex attractions/sexual addiction.........opinions & ideas please

Thanks for the responses.

Yes my GH keeps trying to put a good bit of the blame on me. Well I’m not a perfect wife by a long shot, but knowing you have SSA all through a 35 yr relationship (32 yr marriage) and lying/hiding this could only doom a marriage in my opinion.  It wouldn’t have mattered what I did or said, nothing could change this problem.

As we discussed the situation tonight because he had a “bad day” yesterday as he realized my grown children, grandchildren & I were packing for a vacation, he broke down crying saying he wants to be with me, TGT is just a small part of him. He claims he doesn’t really want that. The thing that pissed me off the most was he accused me of making up stuff.  Within the past 1-2 months he admitted he would like a man to perform oral sex on him & he would probably perform oral on a man. Also that he would like to feel the love of a man, tonight however he says he doesn’t remember saying this at all. My God how can anyone sit there and lie like this & think nothing about it? 

I realize this guy is a self centered liar that will say anything to try to get his way. When I was younger & didn’t know or have proof he was straight up lying, I stuck with him. I wanted to believe in him. Now I know.  And it’s not just TGT, it’s the lies & betrayal!!!  He has no concern for me or my wonderful children/grandchildren. 

A decent person doesn’t treat anyone this bad, especially their wife & family. You are right Leah, he will always make it about Me!  He is such a loser, it’s a shame it took me this long to get to reality!

Hope you all are having some better days!!!

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January 6, 2019 4:09 pm  #27


Re: same sex attractions/sexual addiction.........opinions & ideas please

Dear Control,  

Self-centered liar for sure.  It is the lies and betrayals that really are the killer actions.  No regard for the damage and then all the regret and tears are only about themselves.  I remember Kel saying how these are not the actions of a best friend, because so many of us think of our spouses as our best friend, our number one person in the world.  And they are simply NOT returning the love, loyalty and devotion that they have received.  It is the actions of a LOSER for sure... 

I post when I start to feel like contacting my GIDX.  It is hard to not turn to him still and expect that we can have a conversation about our sons or his family (his mother is ill) but I know now from experience that any contact is just so painful for me.  I have to keep reminding myself that this person I married is no longer alive.  It is a grief that surprises me, but it is to be expected this time of year.  Feeling all the feels is tough.  And it is sad when the mask comes off and we see clearly what we are dealing with is not love, but abuse.  To deceive someone and then make it about them is abusive behaviour.  Emotionally and spiritually abusing our love and devotion to them for literally years while they expect sympathy and understanding endlessly for their 'problem.'  It is just so one-sided.  Be on your side!  

Last edited by Leah (January 6, 2019 4:10 pm)

 

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