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June 3, 2025 3:10 pm  #71


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

sorry to hear of the loss of your brother.  and glad you are able to be there for your family - it sounds to me like you are making steady progress out of the gay-in-denial quagmire.

 

June 3, 2025 3:31 pm  #72


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

HeldHostageInHerCloset wrote:

 
As for the beneficiary info. My brother worked very hard, an insane amount of overtime for years to pay down student debt, only to get cancer. He did not want her taking off with half of what he leaves behind. It's going to my parents now, which hopefully they will use to fix their house up.....

Clever man your bro'  

Elle
 


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August 6, 2025 9:42 am  #73


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I finally pulled the trigger. Waited until I found a lawyer that believed I could get full custody, experienced in father's rights cases. I have a pretty solid case with ample evidence, photos, PI, and receipts, Logs of late nights. One receipt was to a gay bar on the night (technically early the next morning) of our child's birthday that she missed, just left, crumpled up in the kid's bathroom drawer. 
There was something going on the week I filed, she had a "friend" she had to help thru a crisis. She'd already lied a few times to cover time spent with this friend, but I let it play out and waited a week to have her served, just in case there was some truth to the situation. 
I felt wrong about just having her served without speaking first. So I got up the nerve and got a moment alone with her and just said it was over, I wasn't going to compete with all this other stuff anymore... she admitted she was done and had been talking to a lawyer herself. We talked for a bit.. she denied any affairs, but I said I knew otherwise and mentioned one of the names I know about... She just shrugged and said "whatever". She obviously wants 50/50 custody, her share of everything... etc. And to stay in the house until it's sold and we split it. 
I had filed as adultery, I have more than enough evidence to prove that, along with the custody claim, but at this point, I just want to get this over with. I don't have the heart, regardless of faith/moral beliefs to take her from the kids... I don't see how that shows God's love. I haven't shown her how much evidence I have, and I'm not sure I should... I've got years of co-parenting ahead with her and regardless of how I feel or what I know, I have to keep the peace for the kids. 
Meanwhile she's job hunting. We're having to go thru loans and see what's what... She said she was advised to deny the adultery claim, but would write a letter of admission for me after it's all over if I needed it for any future relationship... Sort of a backhanded way of admitting it. It makes little difference in this state as far as assets go, except to count anything spent on other relationships against her cut. I don't know that it's enough to be worth it vs what it would cost in legal fees... other than just the knowing.

It's a weird calm right now, cordial. I'm not digging any more, I just don't have the energy anymore. 
The kids don't know yet, we're letting the school year get started before we dump that on them. 
I had hoped to keep the house for the next school year, some thought I could buy it out, but that's depending on so much, but the idea of having to share it for another 10 months... just delays healing. 

The first steps taken, but the path is uncharted, unknown. 

 

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August 6, 2025 2:46 pm  #74


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

HeldHostageInHerCloset wrote:

I finally pulled the trigger.....The first steps taken, but the path is uncharted, unknown....

 

Great news Held. That first step we take....even with info, proof etc.....is the biggest. But once I myself took it 
I knew I could never retrace those steps and even if my life, my situation became less than what I expected I
just had to face it with my head up, eyes wide open, believing in myself.

Elle 
 


KIA KAHA                       
 

August 6, 2025 3:43 pm  #75


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

well done, Held - hold onto your nerve.  Listen to your lawyer and don't give her anything you aren't forced to by law.

The only regrets I have over my divorce process is where I was kind to him.  Believe me.  It's years ago now and I still have those regrets - why did I leave this for him, why did I let him get away with that.  Stand TOUGH!!!

It sounds like adultery makes a difference in your family court so absolutely file your proof of it.  the whole shocking lot, don't take a step back about anything, imo the niceness towards her, you will regret it.  wishing you the best of luck.  Keep us posted how it is going, these are just the hardest yards in front of you now.

 

August 6, 2025 11:04 pm  #76


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

Held, good for you. 

I went back and looked at the first posting on this thread where you mentioned the gay thing has been going on at your house since 2020. That is a very long time that you've been noticing and wondering and gathering information.   I bet you're exhausted. 

Rooting for you to get everything you're legally entitled to - your kids are lucky to have one stable parent. 

The divorce process sucks, even when it goes smoothly.  It's so much better over here on the other side.  Hang in there & be good to yourself

 

Yesterday 11:45 am  #77


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

Held,
Having gone through this it sounds like your're doing all the right things.     For myself, my Lawyer advised not filing as adultery as it would make little difference in my area/state.. If I really wanted to go for full custody it was going to be at least another 20k extra.    At the time my goal was not take the kids away from her and I told her as much.    We did 50/50... she got.. half of each kid, half my retirement, and shockingly to her (half the debts). 

The process sucks but if she doesnt drag it out with crazy demands..it can end.  My GX was shocked and even more angry that she had to find a job... thought she and her girlfriend were going to buy a large house and live off of their cruel husbands..   

Wishing you continued strength and stoicism.

 


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

Today 9:25 am  #78


Re: Witchcraft, Novels, and more!!!

Rob, 
In our state it doesn't really do much either except for in division of assets whatever she's spent in affairs will be deducted from the whole. I doubt it will be enough to make a difference, maybe a few thousand. 

She's already looking into splitting student loans and figuring out certain debts. I'm really hoping to cut as much debt as possible, but with current interest rates (and current credit score... thanks to her spending), selling the house to pay off debts just to turn around and buy something big enough is going to be a challenge. 
Things like her car are going to be a pain to deal with too. We owe at least $5k more than it's worth thanks to all the mileage and incidents she's had with it. She's mentioned just trading it in to get something cheaper and rolling the $5k into it, but to get anything decent is going to put her right back at the same amount owed. 

Figuring out parenting plan is also up in the air, since she doesn't have stable employment, there's no telling what her schedule is going to look like vs me working from home and... you know... actually being home. 

I need to start liquidating stuff... I'm genuinely looking forward to starting from as clean a slate as possible. minimalist. I come from a family of hoarders and see how consuming things become to people, holding them down... A coworker said about his own divorce, he made up his mind on day 1. When he has the kids, his 100% in the moment with them. And when he doesn't, his not moping around the house, sitting around all weekend doing crap, but out traveling, exploring, hiking, etc. My hope is to find someone that wants that too, I want to see things I gave up on long ago. I've wasted years with someone that never wanted to do anything but what SHE wanted to do who eventually just left me out. I gave up being an artist, I gave up going to the mountains, I gave up galleries, museums and experiences because she thought they were stupid... I am ready to do stupid stuff again. Go find things I can share with the kids and someone else. 

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