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August 24, 2023 10:27 am  #11


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I wrote a while ago and everyone's comments helped me understand things. This is my story for now:
I spoke to my husband, I told him that I knew he was gay and all my conclusions... The first one denied it. But then he told me that he had ever thought about it. I offered him my help if he needed it, I tried to make him understand that we can't live like this. I also told him that I wanted to separate and that we each make our lives. He also told me that he would help me, that we would find a flat for me and our son and that he would help me with everything...
We've been talking about this for 2 months, and at the moment everything is the same. He acts as if he hadn't said anything and continues with his normal life. He doesn't let me talk about it anymore either.
And on top of that, last Sunday he told me that he was going to work and would return in 30 minutes. He arrived 3 hours later, closed himself in the bathroom and came out changed clothes. When I saw his pants they were full of semen stains!!! I looked in his mobile browser and saw that he had been in a forest in our city where gay boys go to have sex (cruising)... He denied it, but I'm sure he did it!!
I don't understand anything, if I make it easy for them to get divorced and each make their own life, why do they do this???
I don't know how to proceed, I wanted to do it right and get a good ending for our son, without anger, and have a little help, since I work but my salary is not very high. The house where we live is his, I don't have any house....
I am more lost than ever. When I spoke to him,I asked him if he had been with a man and he told me that never in his lige…another lie…

 

August 24, 2023 11:31 am  #12


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So sorry MireP. Sadly common. I tried to be a "good partner" to my lying, narc of a wife. She simply took advantage of it, used it as an opportunity to start coming home drunk/high (waking the kids, being loud, inappropriate, etc). She also starting sneaking people into the house through a window (when she could easily have just driven to this person's house). She was/is a 42 year old, PhD level educated, child. Sounds like you are married to one as well. 
Despite you being accommodating, a child only thinks of themself. My ex is exactly the same 1+ year later, I don't think they change. Sean (a gay man, who posts here alot about his actions as a gay man married to ma woman) talks about this "coming out later in life childish streak. Says its fairly common among gay men living a lie. I would read his information, he is candid yet kind. 

Be well, I know it's blown your entire reality up. I was there a year ago. Now? Life has never been better (even though I have to take her to court because after all of this she still refused to sign the divorce papers). You will make it, just know it takes time and is a journey. 

 

August 24, 2023 3:05 pm  #13


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MireP....you have to take a step back, disassociate yourself from what and who your husband is and learn to concentrate on yourself and your child. If all your questions....the important ones....are answered with what you suspect is dishonesty then stop asking those questions and focus on the things that matter to your future.

Do you have support....family, friends...?

Elle

 


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August 25, 2023 4:28 am  #14


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MireP wrote:

We've been talking about this for 2 months, and at the moment everything is the same. He acts as if he hadn't said anything and continues with his normal life.

Hi Mire,
I totally relate with what you wrote here. For us it took 2 years of tears and therapy before we finally decided that separation was the best thing to do and that he would have to leave. But after that he’s been acting as if nothing is about to happen, doesn’t give any steps, doesn’t talk about “the” subject, nothing. And each time I introduce the theme we arrive to the same conclusion (that he has to move away) and the cycle restarts again and again. Now I know that if I want him to leave I will have to give the first steps, which is painful after 31 years of a happy marriage + 4 of nightmare. Still… not easy to face separation for none of us.
I wish you the strength to put your kid’s and your own interests in the center of the decision and move on!

 

August 25, 2023 8:40 am  #15


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These are all good answers to give you the strength not to settle. I'm sorry if this sounds brutal - Consider how you would like to live from now until leaving this earth. Please don't spend too much time trying to find the truth that he's gay. Focus on your neglected needs and your God-given intuition telling you something is wrong. 

 

August 29, 2023 7:35 am  #16


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Sorry to answer so late.... I wanted to thank everyone for your words of support and the strength you have given me. I haven't spoken to him yet, but I am looking for a flat and I have visited a lawyer to find out how to proceed with the divorce. I have also spoken with my family and I have their full support. I think the time has come to stop looking for more evidence and move on with my life, because I will never find a true answer either
Maybe the time has come to follow my instinct and stop being with a person who doesn't love me and is cheating on me.
Thanks everyone for your help!!!

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August 29, 2023 9:49 am  #17


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MireP, I am sorry to hear about your husband. I think I am in the same boat with you, except my husband doesn’t have any trauma and I didn’t find his gay porn, he always cleared his browsing history, did your husband clear his too and how did you find out he watched gay porn? We also haven’t had sex in 4 years, he is not cheating (I haven’t found any evidence yet). I am in a loss and trying to find more evidence for myself to move on, any hints from you would be highly appreciated. I posted my story in a different post too. Thanks.

 

September 12, 2023 1:43 pm  #18


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I don't know how to separate myself... every time I tell him he tells me how much he loves me, and that he can't be without me... and he always denies that he's gay... and I trust him less and less. I don't have any proof to prove to you that he is gay. How desperate, I hate myself for not knowing how to take the final step... has anyone else had this happen to them? Being completely unhappy and hating this person and not having the courage to finish? I don't know how to face this, when do you have enough strength to finish permanently?

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September 12, 2023 2:17 pm  #19


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MireP wrote:

I don't know how to separate myself... ......Being completely unhappy and hating this person and not having the courage to finish? I don't know how to face this, when do you have enough strength to finish permanently?

 
I simply put one foot after the other, day by day... until I had a clearer view of what my future might look like. Often I was sure I would never extricate myself from r'ship that, even though it gave me everything i needed materialistically, was suffocating my sense of self.

I did try not to hate... because I knew hating would only stress me more. I imagined an emotionless wall between A and myself. Treated him like a housemate and carried on till the separation. One thing I did do was not talk to him about *the situation between us*. I never got mad, never started an argument or conversation about my unhappiness (and he never did either, that's how emotionless and unaware HE was of my unhappiness)

The day came when I just knew today (7th February 2023) was the day I had to ring a lawyer and do something at last.

Elle


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September 12, 2023 2:30 pm  #20


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How brave Elle!! I admire you... I try not to hate him, but it's hard for me... I try to do things right, but I don't know how to look him in the face... I don't know if I'm going to succeed, but I'm putting all my strength into it... I try not to think about how gay I am, just think about how unhappy I am, maybe that way I get more strength... Thank you for your words Elle, they are a great help to me... I hope I get it too!

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