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November 3, 2016 8:03 pm  #51


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

Jill wrote:

Justme,

I'm much more knowledgeable about closeted gay men than about a wife who thinks she could be bi or even gay.
Yet, I know that my X succumbed to gay habits while being married to me. I ask "the porn" questions, the "someone else" questions and just got fabrications and not reality. My GIDXH had immersed himself in gayness while playing straight. You are not doing that!

Some things have always been off limits to me - like exploring my thoughts in sexual fantasies over other men when I'm married. Maybe that's not so simple for everyone, but what I'm trying to say is that certain behavior and what we do with our longings in life are choices. For example, I'd love a Mercedes convertible! That's as far as it goes though cause of the reality of the cost! I know I'll probably never have one and a reliable car is more than fine for me.

My point is that you have a great marriage and family. You enjoy your sex life with your husband. You love your child. Do you have to let a desire define you or could you chose to love your husband and accept never satisfying some sexual fantasy that you show so much uncertainty towards? Would it be wrong to talk to your husband but recommit to what you have with him, especially since you think you are bi and have vowed to love him?

Forum members can calll me old fashioned or narrow minded or something else. It's just that what you wish for and desire isn't always worth what you lose. Sex is important, but it really is only one component of a relationship, albeitt a very important one. So is honesty, loyalty, faithfulness, and an intact nuclear family important. Again, you said you enjoy your husband sexually. Why dwell upon fantasies of someone else?

For me, I needed honesty, loyalty, and faithfulness in a relationship. Calculated deception and unfaithful behavior negates all of that! Had there been a real person telling me about his struggle but that he still desired me (even though he desired men too), I would have counted the cost of losing an honest man who loved me despite his struggles. Instead I faced a man who dabbled much, covered up much, and told very little despite what I found. I would never have considered an open marriage, but even with the painful reality, I likely would have supported my X with a choice towards a renewed sense of trying to make it work for all the right reasons. That didn't happen for me, but it could possibly be the case for you and your marital choices.

I like this - your analogy with car is spot on. 
However I used the same reasoning with my ex and she wasn't  having any of it. At some point physiology and irrational thoughts trump reason

 

November 3, 2016 8:29 pm  #52


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

Hi, Justme,

Justme wrote:

My therapist is actually a gay woman living with her life partner. She seems to be convinced I am un-gay enough to work on the marriage. I want that, and I want to restore trust, but first I want to be sure, and it can be a long process. I don't know if it is better to share doubts with your spouse during this process. Probably not

It sounds like your therapist has come to a pretty firm conclusion about you, herself.  

I know someone else on here -- I'm pretty sure it was Sean, mentioned the difference between being in a state of "foreclosure" vs a state of "moratorium."  

In moratorium, you're still exploring without having come to any firm conclusions yet.  In foreclosure, you've shut down the exploration process prematurely.  It seems that your therapist is "forclosing" you, while you're still having questions about yourself.  I'm curious whether or not you feel that might be the case, and if so is your therapist being helpful to you?  

- Jeff

 

Last edited by Jeff W (November 4, 2016 12:36 pm)

 

November 4, 2016 8:01 am  #53


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

I admire JustMe's honesty, but I'm just wondering how someone can really "explore" his/her SSA and still remain committed n heart to his/her spouse  in a heterosexual marriage.

 

November 4, 2016 8:34 am  #54


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

That's a good question Betsy. 

I guess I've never done it myself because I've never doubted my sexuality.  I can't say exactly what it would take to self-evaluate.   However, I think there are some ways that a person can come to terms with their sexuality without actually having intercourse with another person.  I think a person can mentally process their feelings.  Perhaps a change in perspective and honest honest self-reflection would be a start.  Instead of thinking of yourself as a straight person with possible conflict.  Maybe start thinking of yourself as a homosexual in your own mind.. then consider whether the SSA feels more normal vs. hetero?   Perhaps reading books, internet, or going to counseling would help a person come to terms.  There is probably an aspect of giving things time to settle into your mind and process your thoughts as well. 
 

Last edited by lostdad (November 4, 2016 8:35 am)


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

January 30, 2017 10:49 am  #55


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

Hi everyone,

I wrote the original post a few months ago, and I just wanted to give all of you an update and thank you for being so kind to me. I talked to my husband, like some of you suggested, and I told him most of what I have been writing on this board. He was and - to some degree - still is pretty shocked, but we have been doing pretty well since then. We have no intention of splitting up, and I the last thing I want to do is hurt him or be unfaithful or dishonest. I am happier now thatI told him, because it means that I am not being ripped apart by guilt when I feel some degree of attraction to a woman. One good thing resulting from
our conversation is that it actually let to HIM being more honest with ME and telling me about some sexual desires he has always had but never told me about. Nothing crazy - just fairly normal straight stuff - but he had never told anyone before, and now we are exploring that together and it makes him feel really happy and fully accepted. I am glad that something good came from the painful conversation and that I can help him feel better about himself, too.

I am not done trying to cope with the realization thatI am not straight, and I am still exploring that through counseling, reading books and being honest with some familymembers and friends. Labeling my orientation is not easy for me, since I have been attracted to some men and some women in my life, but not necessarily to the same degree, so I am really not sure. I love my husband, I want him, I don't want anyone else, and I strongly feel like that should be all that matters, but I also know that the work isn't done, and that I need to work trough this for his sake and mine.

Thank you for listening

 

January 30, 2017 11:07 am  #56


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

By the way, I still don't want to intrude and I know this forum is not for "people like me", but my husband might start posting here too. At least he said he considered it, but right now he doesn't feel the need. My only concern about my sexuality is actually my husband and how he feels about it. If I was not married, I don't even think that I would be conflicted about being "not straight". I just want to know how to help him cope.

 

January 30, 2017 12:38 pm  #57


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

hi justme, thank you for coming back with an update.  I'm glad you've spoken with your husband, I think you deserve even more credit because you recognise that that's not the end of it.

And I'm sorry.  I'm sorry for the sadness inherent in the situation. 

I just think you are both better off being open and sharing it all, the painful bits too - better out than in.  If you are good to each other you can still love each other come what may.

Have to add a personal observation - sexuality and happiness seem inexorably linked to me. 

wishing you all the best.  lily

 

January 30, 2017 5:23 pm  #58


Re: How do I talk to my straight husband?

Hi Justme,
I quickly skimmed all 6 pages and didn't see anyone recommend MMOMW.  It's a yahoo group for mixed orientation marriages.  You or your husband (or both) can join.  I'm on there and this forum.  Different experiences entirely but do come back to SSN.

I don't think you need to apologize for being here, in my opinion you're more than welcome to be here.  If the folks here can help you to help your husband than the purpose of this forum has been served.  PM me here or at vickym7673@yahoo.com if you want more info.

Take care.
Vicky


 
 

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