lily, I'm far more cynical about the bi-women thing.  I think guys who deliberately avoid thinking in the long-term get into the idea that they're going to have lots of kinky three-way sex with a bi girlfriend and all her friends.

I don't have much empathy to waste on people who try to use other people.  I'm angered by people deluding themselves that they're justified in luring an unsuspecting person into a monogamous allegedly straight marriage, and then springing the ugly surprise on them after their lives and finances and families are so entangled there's a price to be paid for a straight spouses to extract themselves.

OG, I'm hiding behind the sofa too!

walkby, if a man is thinking like that he's just gone to the wrong place hasn't he, not a woman to desire him in sight!!

OG  up til now the price has kept on growing but now you know where you are.  This is a huge accomplishment in itself and good things can come of it.

I can relate to this post.  My distrust for people is huge. I look at all men and think they’re a closeted gay guy. Im working on divorce but can’t imagine dating again. I was played and I don’t feel that I could ever give of myself again. No children, under sixty and soon to be a divorced woman who is going to live my life with myself out of fear.  Save some room behind the couch for me.

more sandwiches too!