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General Discussion » "Six proven signs your spouse isn't straight" » December 7, 2020 10:23 pm

Julian_Stone
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I'm not a big fan of porn in general...Sometimes the storylines (when they exist at all) are pretty comical, though! I do wonder if porn is the reason so many men are really bad at sex ...Sex with an emotional connection is 1,000X better...which is one (of many) reasons I would never entertain an "open marriage" policy. I would definitely fall for my "side piece" because I'd be ultra selective when casting my reel. ;) 

General Discussion » "Six proven signs your spouse isn't straight" » December 6, 2020 6:23 pm

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Dutchman wrote:

Julian Stone wrote:

That is funny...I suppose that puts you in the "super straight" category!

For I suspect many (most?) straight men can appreciate lesbian porn. Actually most of this genre is produced for straight men as it's intended audience.

Though my previous post was of course tongue in cheek, it made me think that lesbian porn can be used as a sort of a "gay test". 
I suppose generally speaking gay men don't like watching "lesbian action" near as much as straight men would. 
(personal preferences will be different, so it's not fail safe or something).

Yes...that definitely makes sense. I've heard from gay friends that when they watched hetero porn when they were younger, they focused on the men.

By that measure, as I woman, I suppose I should be into gay porn....but I do not find anal sex (or porn guys) particularly sexy. 
 

Strategies for MOM's » Impasse » December 6, 2020 3:07 pm

stevo wrote:

I have noticed that there are a lot of beautiful women out there! nuff said.

Yes, Stevo! I'm still with my spouse, too...but one effect his coming out had on me is that I notice other guys more now...I used to find myself quickly breaking eye contact when I'd catch an attractive man checking me out on the train or wherever...I no longer do that...There's a certain sort of comfort in knowing that there's a great big world of possibilities out there.
 

General Discussion » "Six proven signs your spouse isn't straight" » December 6, 2020 2:04 pm

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Dutchman wrote:

Their porn habits are questionable.
My hard and fast (excuse the pun) rules on this are if you're always watching non-hetero porn you're probably non-hetero.


I must confess I actually prefer non-hetero porn.
(...cause I don't like some dude spoiling the view).

That is funny...I suppose that puts you in the "super straight" category!  
None of the signs on this list really applied for me...I'm sure #3 was at play (and possibly #5), but my husband is a smart, tech-savy guy...so no doubt he would use a private browser for these things. I didn't really have the gut feeling...I've always considered myself a highly intuitive person, so it concerns me in a way that I didn't suspect he's not straight...In fact, I was completely shocked (still am, really!)

General Discussion » "Six proven signs your spouse isn't straight" » December 5, 2020 1:04 am

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A little light-hearted(ish) content for those who are in a place where they can kind of laugh about how much it sucks to discover your partner is not so straight after all.

I came across this blog a few weeks post D-day... still floating in a fog...and suddenly 15 pounds lighter (probably from all of my crying!) I needed the laugh...and this straight wife delivered.

https://www.thestraightwife.com/home/2017/5/30/the-six-sense-six-signs-your-spouse-isnt-straight

Support » What to believe » December 4, 2020 11:52 pm

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Rob wrote:

Believe that he can be cruel.
Believe that he can be hurtful.

In the words of Chumplady..trust that he sucks.

Yes...what struck me most about this one is how needlessly cruel he was...like he wanted to take her down a peg. "I'm not gay...it's you."

Trust me, IAF, it's not you. He's projecting his guilt and shame onto you.
 

Strategies for MOM's » Can my marriage survive with my lesbian wife? » December 3, 2020 12:53 pm

Hi Rocky—It sounds like you and your wife have a wonderful friendship. That does not have to change. I know the desperation to keep the family intact for the kids, but your happiness is also important. At the end of the day, your children just want two happy, loving parents.

You said: "T
here are more important things than sex, right?"
Yes...that's true...but it's pretty damn important in my book... ;) Do you want to spend the rest of your one precious life celibate? That sounds awful to me...then again, so does having sex with someone who is disgusted at the thought of heterosexual....coitus. Ouch.


You asked: "
Is there a way we can keep this together but be happy?"
[color=#454545]*My* honest opinion: no...not the happy part, anyway.

You mentioned the possibility of opening up the marriage...I have no experience with that, so everything that follows is purely opinion...But *I think* open marriages (for the most part) are just a short-term solution to delay the inevitable. They take a lot of work...and a ton of communication...and don't have the best success rate. If you do decide to go this route, others may be able to point you to more valuable resources/forums.

Just thinking about things (practically)...If you do decide to date outside of the marriage:

1. You're going to have quite a challenge finding a woman who wants to be the third wheel in this complicated dynamic.
2. No-strings-attached sex sounds pretty simple in theory, but there's always...*ALWAYS* the possibility of becoming emotionally attached...And what happens then?
3. There's a very real chance that if/when you fall for someone else....you're going to be reminded (or perhaps experience for the first time) how truly amazing it feels when the physical + emotional elements align...How great it is to be with someone who desires you completely. (And what happens then?)

Your wif

General Discussion » Chump Lady's UBT takes on an abusive gay spouse » December 3, 2020 12:48 am

You're right, Daryl. It's the honesty and commitment that matters. The problem is that most of us don't find out we're married to a bisexual until years (sometimes decades) into our relationships. That is the thing that hurt me the most: the dishonesty. Though I didn't have the typical red flags (gay porn, secret sex toy stash, or illicit apps/messages), looking back I can see how the secret impacted my marriage. There was something  I couldn't pinpoint...not exactly a wall...more like a thin film I could not penetrate.

I do think that some bisexuals are probably better suited for other bisexuals (though, statistically, most end up with opposite-sex partners). One thing I have noticed is that many describe their same-sex attraction as a "need" or an "uncontrollable urge" instead of a "want." I came across one guy in a forum who said he "felt like he was going to die if he didn't get to be with another man." I suspect that when the desire is affecting their mental health in that way, they're most likely GID. 

Support » What to believe » December 2, 2020 10:45 pm

Julian_Stone
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Sadly, we all know that "in a fog" state. After my husband told me he is bisexual, I felt like I didn't know which end is up. I think Lily is spot on: Telling you he loves you and wants your marriage to work out just isn't compatible with exploring his sexuality with men (assuming you—like most people who get married—want monogamy). Don't let him string you along or gaslight you into submission. 

I like Lily's suggestion. Approach him calmly & tell him you'd like to get a divorce so you're not "holding him back" from discovering himself and his "needs." I have a feeling he'll change his tune...or (more likely) try to play a game of "let's make a deal." At the end of the day, you'll never regret staying true to your values and *your* needs. 

Take care...I know this isn't easy. <3
 

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