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Is He/She Gay » Was your partner out as bi before coming out as gay? » March 9, 2023 12:46 pm |
Gloria, I don't really get being bi either. But I don't get being attracted to men! I think human sexuality is kind of all over the place. Of course there are people who change it to their advantage, and there are people who change it to protect themselves prejudice and stigma. So it's influenced by outside forces too. And then there is the fact that people will sometimes lie about it to other people, and even lie about it to themselves. It's just really complicated. What's not complicated is making a life commitment to someone. When a person goes into a monogamous marriage I don't think their sexual orientation is actually all that relevant anymore. For all intents and purposes they are committing to their partner as their sexual orientation. It's not all women or all men or both, it's your spouse, period.
Is He/She Gay » Was your partner out as bi before coming out as gay? » March 9, 2023 12:37 pm |
lily wrote:
Hi Salamander,
Not sure why you don't think her being bi is a problem - would you do it again?
My ex was in same sex relationships before marrying me, but he didn't tell me about them, just about the girlfriends.
Your ex was in the closet, which is kind of the opposite. He was gay or bi and hiding it or trying to deny it, and that's just the person who is likely to marry someone of the opposite sex and eventually come out anyway.
My wife was fully out to family and friends, etc. When a person who is actually gay gets to the point where they can openly have relationships with the people they are attracted to, even if they initially identified as bi, they just stop being with people of the opposite sex and eventually start using gay instead of bi. They don't go in the other direction and seek out relationships with people of the opposite sex that they aren't actually attracted to. Why would they? So with my wife, I don't think the problem was actually her sexual orientation. If she had married a woman and then left them for a man she would be telling people that she discovered she's straight. She might actually believe it herself, but I think she really has been bi all her life and narrowing her sexual orientation, for now at least, is just a way for her to leave her boring marriage for some young hottie without looking like the cliché bad guy. Her LGBTQ allies will rally around her and she can make herself look like the victim. For context, I've since found out that she was lying about money too. When I confronted her, she just doubled down with more lies. She just manipulates the narrative in whatever ways serves her, and since she's always been bi, it serves her to exploit that now. It's not a sexual orientation problem, it's an honesty problem.
Is He/She Gay » Was your partner out as bi before coming out as gay? » March 3, 2023 12:40 pm |
Thanks, Lily.
And, yes, that was exactly it. I didn't think her being bi was a problem. And I still don't. There are thousands of stories of straight couples where someone comes out as gay. Obviously, this whole site is about it. But they don't ever seem to be out and in same sex relationship before hand. In fact, finding someone who is out as bi and marrying them almost seems to guarantee that they won't leave you because of their sexual orientation. My story is the exception, but since it's the only one I can find among thousands of these stories, it's definitely rare.
Is He/She Gay » Was your partner out as bi before coming out as gay? » March 1, 2023 3:35 pm |
I posted this in the group for straight partners on reddit too and got some comments and over 1,000 views. I've also read dozens of people's stories, and as far as I can tell, no on else has ever had this happen with a partner that was out as queer and having relationships with people of the same sex before they met. It confirms my suspicion that there is something going on here, but it sure doesn't make me feel any better. Our marriage is done either way.
Is He/She Gay » Was your partner out as bi before coming out as gay? » February 23, 2023 11:21 am |
Yeah, I do think it's fairly common for coming out as bi or whatever to be the narrow end of the wedge in a longer move toward coming out more fully. I don't think that really applies in our case though, because she would have had to have started that slow transition before I even met her. I've had all sorts of scary thoughts lately, but even in my current state I can't conceive of her living as bi for years to prepare for eventually marrying a straight man and then divorcing him.
Is He/She Gay » Was your partner out as bi before coming out as gay? » February 23, 2023 8:27 am |
Thank you so much for sharing that.
It sounds like your situation is a little different in that he was living as straight when you got together and hadn't openly had relationships with men. So this sounds more like one of the situations where someone has lived as straight, been in a straight marriage, and comes out as bi on their way to eventually coming out as gay.
But aside from that, dear god, I'm sorry. You were really put through the ringer and parts of your story sound familiar. Especially doing the work on your marriage and all of the reassurances that everything was ok and you were on solid ground. I don't think my wife has been siting on this idea that she's really gay for more than a few days, so at least she wasn't forcing me to live a lie for an extended period of time. Damn, that's rough. You not only had your life pulled out from under you, you also had your life up to that point retroactively invalidated. Just horrible.
And I don't want to minimize what you've been through, but you're only in your thirties and without kids, so you have the time and freedom to build the life you deserve. With your ability to do your own personal work and grow, I think you have a good shot at having a great life. Thanks again.
Is He/She Gay » Was your partner out as bi before coming out as gay? » February 22, 2023 6:31 pm |
My partner has come out as gay and wants a divorce. I'm guessing you've heard this one before. But there are a couple of weird things about our situation. First, there were no red flags. We’ve been together six years and our sex life isn’t what it was before were were both well into our forties, but it’s still good and has been great. She has told me unsolicited that our sex is the best she's ever had. She initiates sex, knows what she likes, very obviously and intensely enjoys the outcome, etc. Anyway, there has never been a sense that something was off there. And the big thing is this. She's in her forties now, but she came out as bi in her twenties. She's dated women and had significant relationships with them, including spending time with her family and hanging out with all of her queer-friendly friends. Professionally, she actually has being queer on her resume as part of her work. I keep reading stories about people who's partners come out and they all seem to have two things in common: There are almost always things in retrospect that make sense after the revelation (not interested in sex, friendships that seem like more...), and they are always in a situation where the person experienced a lot of social pressure to live as straight. I'm just not seeing those things here. So I'm looking for anyone who has had a partner who was comfortably out as bi and in same-sex relationships but then got into an opposite sex relationship only to come out as gay later. Is this even a thing?
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