Is He/She Gay » A gay ex-husband answers your questions » March 9, 2025 8:43 pm |
Sean - I will never understand this myself. I also truly don't get the point of lying about it (and if it's a situation where you fear for your life, or there are other reasons to remain "closeted" I don't see why you don't make an open arrangement with a woman who is open to the relationship from the beginning, and you both know what you're getting into).
For myself - I don't care if a man isn't straight. I do care about him lying to me and using me to cover it. And, personally, I never want to date or marry a man who isn't straight. And, again, for myself there is a firm boundary. It is black and white. If you have any romantic or sexual interest in men, you aren't straight, and I am not interested. Go off and find someone who will be compatible with you and build your life with them.
I will never understand why my was-band did this to me. Let alone, for close to 20 years. He can spout all the nonsense he wants, but he knew before he married me. And he chose to blind side me, ruin my life, and be unendingly cruel in the process. None of it was necessary. It still makes my head hurt if I think about it too much.
But, I had to accept what others have pointed out.....he enjoyed hurting me. He wanted to see me suffer. And he went out of his way to be cruel. He knew what he was doing. And he made his choices.
Support » The shock of my life » February 9, 2025 12:03 pm |
...and some of us don't get a choice, unfortunately.
I stayed in the MOM for a number of years after he first announced he was bisexual. My only condition was that he had to communicate with me about what was going on (he blind sided me with the bi announcement). We did counselling, both together and individually. He begged me to stay in the marriage (despite finding out he hadn't been honest with me for a good decade). Despite everything he dragged me through....I loved him deeply, and I supported him.
Again, my only request was that he communicate. I told him flat out that the one thing I couldn't handle was that I stayed in this marriage, put everything into it, and one day he just announces "I'm gay, I'm leaving you".
Throughout those years, I asked him many times how he was doing, was he still questioning, we did all the things. I even commented how all of this was going to end up making us stronger than ever. I made significant sacrifices based on the marriage and being a couple.
One Saturday morning I got "I'm gay, I'm divorcing you". Turns out he was just lying to my face all those years. He was just telling me what he thought I wanted to hear....while he planned out the best way to leave me and get what he wanted.
He had years to come to terms with it, make plans, have another place set up and a separate account. And then he just walked away. He left me without any money, a half renovated house, a handful of pets, and all the bills.
It's quite exquisite looking back on it. The lengths he went to destroy me and make sure he took everything I ever loved or believed in.
Years after the fact, he told me my apparent sin in all of this. That when he blindsided me with his "I'm bisexual" announcement, apparently I didn't have the appropriate reaction. At the time I felt like I had just taken a frying pan to the face and I asked him to please leave and go to a hotel for the night. I said that I needed space to comprehend all of this.
He came back the ne
Support » Help Questions for Straight Spouse New to This » February 8, 2025 7:18 pm |
That's the mind fuck to me. HE NEVER LOVED ME.
20 years together. I lived with this man. I loved him beyond words. I pictured growing old together. And to find out that I have never been loved....well, it destroyed something inside of me. As of yet, I have not recovered. It still hits me sometimes. He had a relationship with someone who deeply loved him, supported him, sacrificed for him.....and I had nothing.
I will never forget the lies he made when he walked out. How he promised to be "fair" and still support me. How he would ensure I was taken care of, even though we couldn't be a married couple anymore, that he cared about me and would always "love" me.
For three years (and counting, as I'm STILL waiting for the divorce to be finalized) he has condescendingly sneered "is this fair?" to me as he did increasingly awful things (like cancelling my health insurance) and would become more malicious when I told him no it wasn't. He enjoyed bringing me to my knees.
And yes, I do still really struggle with the fac that that's the kind of "love" I got in life. It isn't fair. I didn't deserve it. And now I am going to be facing the later years of my life alone without any safety net, since he ensured that I don't have anything left.
He isn't capable of empathy.
Support » Help Questions for Straight Spouse New to This » February 8, 2025 11:14 am |
After my gay was-band announced one day that he was gay and divorcing me (no heads up, discussion, I got nothing for the 20 years of being his loving and supportive wife).....I paid $5000 (out of pocket) for a private psychological assessment to see if I was crazy. Seriously.
I was found to be sane and highly empathetic.
Within 3 years of getting married I started anti-depressants. Over the years I was diagnosed with treatment resistant major depressive disorder. Fistfuls of pills and specialists. I even did several months of rTMS treatment.
All of this was him.
When I started to unravel the lies, manipulation, all the ways he used me, gas lighted me....he wanted me to suffer. He wanted me to be too depressed to function. He wanted a beaten down shell of a person, so that he could get everything he wanted in life and discard me when he didn't "need" me anymore.
I had endless amounts of support, empathy and love for him. Had he been honest and upfront, ironically I probably would have been a major support. Instead he destroyed me and ensured I lost everything in my life and truly suffered.
I have no empathy left for any of these GID spouses. And being such a wonderful amazing person actually got me absolutely screwed. So, I don't recommend it to anyone anymore. Straight spouses need to have LESS empathy and kindness. Because they have to be selfish for the first time in their lives and look at what they want and need. And not what they GID spouse wants or needs. Or they get eaten alive.
Support » Help Questions for Straight Spouse New to This » February 4, 2025 9:23 pm |
Personally, I think it's disingenuous to say that autistic spouses act like GID spouses. I would rather look at it as your husband is autistic, and he may be GID. They are two entirely different things. Just like a lot of GID spouses seem to have narcissistic personality traits. Maybe there is a link, maybe there isn't. But they are still different entities.
Support » Help Questions for Straight Spouse New to This » February 2, 2025 9:09 pm |
So, I have to ask - what in having autism is similar to a man being gay in denial?
Support » Help Questions for Straight Spouse New to This » February 1, 2025 10:21 pm |
Honestly - if there was anyway to ever get a GID spouse to tell the truth, I would love to hear it. I still have no idea what the "truth" is...close to 20 years of marriage, and now almost 3 years into him being a total douche canoe during the divorce process.
After he blind sided me, I asked to sit down and have a conversation. He refused. I asked if he could then do a phone call, or even write it down. Just give me a timeline of what the hell happened (since I honestly had absolutely no clue and it's a real mind fuck to find out your entire adult life was a lie). He couldn't.
What will always stick with me, when I asked him why the hell it was so hard to actually communicate with me (you know, his loyal and loving wife of 20 years) is that he told me he couldn't put it into words, or didn't know what to say, didn't know how to explain it.
All I could think is, why don't you just tell the truth? How hard is it to just be honest and say what happened? But he couldn't even do that for me, he had zero empathy and refused to do anything. I hate him for that. I hate the fact that only he knows the truth about our marriage and he's perfectly fine to leave me with all the unanswered questions, doubt and unknowns.
It's a hell of a lot harder to make up this elaborate tale and lie for decades...normal people don't do this.
Any healthy relationship, where a spouse has realized they have a different sexual orientation, that I have heard about were ones where there was open communication. Legitimate apologies. No cheating and lies. And a genuine desire from both spouses to take care of each other, no matter what happened.
If you are in a relationship where you are trying to figure out if your spouse is gay, and coming up with plans to try to pry a confession out of them because they refuse to communicate, it isn't going to end well. Straight spouses in these situations are the kindest, most amazing people I have ever seen. They are truly empathetic and they neglect the
Support » Here's the Kicker - My Divorce was Denied » January 10, 2025 4:43 pm |
I haven't been even remotely happy with my lawyer, but by the time it got to this point, everything was pretty much done. So it's too late now because I just can't afford to hire someone else. Divorce laws changed recently, and I have a hard time believing that it wasn't the reason he demanded a divorce when he did.
Support » I find myself here » January 10, 2025 12:58 pm |
This is a journey I would not wish on my worst enemy.
To this day, I still have my moments of struggle. I struggle with the "why" because I cannot comprehend ever doing this to someone. I struggle with this unrelenting urge to reach out to him, because there is this sliver of hope that refuses to die, that the man I loved is still in there somewhere.
Ironically, I have no desire to get back together (never did after his announcement) or even really want any part in his life per say......it's more this sense of loss and grief over losing someone I grew up with, shared a life with, someone who knows all the "inside jokes" and stories. I truly miss not having anyone in my life anymore that just knows my life. Whether it was a lie or not.....I'm really struggling with meeting new people, because I just lost everything. I find myself inadvertently joking or doing something and still get that millisecond of waiting for a knowing laugh....and there's nothing.
And there's also the pain of being hated by someone I loved deeply. I know it's not logical .I know it's not my fault. But I am human, and the vitriol and cruelty he spewed at me was incredibly painful.
Kmack - unfortunately, there will be a number of tough days ahead. Depending on yourself and your situation, it may take you months to recover, or it may take you years. All of it is perfectly normal and ok. You have to take whatever time you need to grieve and heal. If you are able to find a decent therapist to talk to, it can be helpful. Also - start focusing on self care. Start small - get some really nice bath scents, get a new book, go for a walk. Just little things you can do to take care of yourself. When you start to feel better - try looking into taking up a hobby. Find something that has a bit of a social component so you can be around people. Try making plans for a weekend trip, or retreat.
The days can be hard, but those who go through this are incredibly strong and resilient people. And we're here t
Support » Here's the Kicker - My Divorce was Denied » January 9, 2025 11:07 pm |
It is complete BS. Two years after my was-band made his "I'm gay, I'm divorcing you" announcement and walked out, I decided to change my name back to my maiden name. The judge apparently took offense to this, and denied my application for divorce because my "name didn't match" - and has requested that I formally change my name back to my married name and get new government issued ID, then apply for a divorce again. And then once it's approved I can then legally change back to my maiden name (again!) and get all new IDs.
My lawyer stated he had never seen anything like it and has obviously appealed. He thinks it will be thrown out, eventually. I just happened to get a POS judge who decided that a woman has to have the last name of her abusive former gay in denial "husband" to be able to divorce him.
The saga continues.