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May 16, 2017 9:26 pm  #1


How do I talk to him?

I'm not sure I can even say I am shocked that my husband is bisexual.  We have been together for 14 years married almost 11.  In the beginning of our relationship I found emails he sent to another man and his excuse was that he was just talking... he wants a buff body like other guys.  Then years later I find gay porn video catalog hidden.  Years later I find messages between him and another man about how my husband wants to find a guy who he can experiment with.  Goes on to say he found one from Florida that would come to our state and stay for the weekend.  This guys explains you want a full weekend you don't want to have to go between your family and this friend you have coming in to town for a weekend.  I confront him and get... "you want a divorce? do I gross you out"  We worked it out and I believed everything he said.  now he's not being "present" in our family again ... constantly at the gym, work, on his phone and/or computer.
Why am I the bad guy for asking questions... for wanting to know what he wants?!  I don't want our marriage to fail or our three kids to live between two homes, but I deserve the truth right? 
​I don't think he has cheated on me yet, but I can't wait until that happens. 
​How do I talk to him about this?  he gets so defensive... i'm afraid he will just walk away if I bring it up.  I really don't thing he's gay, I think he is attracted to both men and women... but I need to get these secrets out I'm done tip toeing around and ignoring signs.
HELP!

 

May 16, 2017 9:58 pm  #2


Re: How do I talk to him?

You do indeed deserve the truth. Keep posting, read what others here have said and think about what else you deserve and need. So far it sounds like he's been hiding way too much from you. What does he want? Hard to say but maybe it's the security of the wife as cover.


“The future is unwritten.”
― Joe Strummer
 

May 16, 2017 10:40 pm  #3


Re: How do I talk to him?

Amienough,

Yes you are enough.

It is not normal. ..normal guys don't do the things you describe.
So sorry...you may not want it to be true..but.. so many secrets and lies..  it's not how you treat a spouse.  Sorry but your gut/bones/intuition is telling you something is wrong.

Yeah my ex hid behind anger when  I confronted her on it..she remained angry to this day...her response to anything and everything is anger. 


Please be kind to yourself..you don't deserve this.
A warm ehug.

Last edited by Rob (May 17, 2017 5:43 am)


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

May 17, 2017 3:21 am  #4


Re: How do I talk to him?

Amienough, you are! AND you deserve the truth, of course he's getting angry and defensive when you confront him on what he's trying to keep secret. I get you have a family and don't want the kids to live between two homes BUT at what cost are you prepared to keep that? I didn't see any of the signs you're seeing, I never suspected anything, didn't uncover any evidence, never suspected any gay inclinations at all. Oh I felt there was something off but never what I eventually heard after 28+ years married (and the activities were taking place for 25 of those years!). Do you want to put your life on hold until the kids are reared? 

Something I felt very angry about is that I was denied the right to choose, he made decisions for both of us, he decided HE (the real he) was more important than me or the truth. He denied me any part in how, what and when our kids found out. If you push for the truth now you can have some part to play in the roll out of whatever he's hiding and you can decide what's best for YOU going forward. You may decide for now it's best to keep the family together but at least you can decide how that works for you! Personally speaking I feel it would have been better for my children to have learned what they eventually learned in their 20s and left home when they were younger, spoon fed the information. Now they're looking back on their entire lives (for the youngest his father indulged in gay activities prior to his conception even), their whole foundation has been rocked, nothing is what they ever thought it was, it alters your outlook on life. It has my oldest thinking strongly about bringing kids into this world! They all thought they were from a stable foundation, finding out weeks after the youngest had left home that their father is gay and has been engaging in gay activities from their early childhood! Two of my three are struggling with their relationship with him, the third I feel is more supportive to him than me, our relationship is more on her terms but that's what I have to do to keep her in my life.

Sorry for rambling on a bit about my situation but I want you to think about what it'd be like for your kids to find out when they've left home, it may seem the better option to you now and I get that. I'm coming from where I didn't have the opportunity you have to lay it all out now and deal with it and you participate in the decision making. I'd urge you to push through and get to the bottom of it, tell him you NEED to know the truth now and not in 10 or 15 years time, because it will have to come out and be dealt with, it's only a matter of time. I always described my STBX as a "don't do today what you can put off till tomorrow" type of person, where I was always the "why put off till tomorrow what you can do today". BOY, little did I know what he was really putting off until tomorrow, he spent so long hoping tomorrow would never come, well it did come and it caused a massive explosion and my family will never be the same.

Keep posting!

 


Sometimes we are just the collateral damage in someone else's war against themselves
 

May 17, 2017 6:03 am  #5


Re: How do I talk to him?

Don't talk to him until you are in a position of strength. The behavior you are describing now was my ex's at the end before he announced that he was gay and wanted a divorce. Trust your gut that something is going on in his life that you don't know about and start preparing for where this will leave you.

If you find evidence, save it as proof that you are not imagining things. Set aside money in an account that only you can access. Make copies of all financial documents, assets as well as liabilities. Start looking for an attorney and find out your legal rights under the laws where you live. Know where to file for support for yourself and your children.

When you do confront him be prepared for all scenarios. Know beforehand what you want for yourself and the children so that if he denies; admits but wants to continue the marriage, or announces he wants a divorce you can respond appropriately. Try to keep it business-like. Be strong and don't let yourself get boxed into a corner.



 


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May 17, 2017 3:46 pm  #6


Re: How do I talk to him?

I'm the cynical one - out of experience and plenty of watching train wrecks here.  If he's not present in his family, he's ALREADY cheated.  It may not be physical (although it most likely is), but in some way, he's cheating.  That vacant, faraway thing - combined with being easily annoyed - are a combination of falling for someone else and then resenting the people they have to be with for not being the person he really wants to be with.  Suddenly everything you do is annoying to him - because his heart is elsewhere.  The other thing that causes this is grand compartmentalization.  They have to compartmentalize everything in order to live with what they're doing.  So you are in your own box, and the kids are in their own box, and whomever he's spending time on the side is in their own box. True, healthy love lets all the boxes integrate.  You may have always had your own box, but there were other things in it besides you - love, laughter, companionship, and sex - among other things.  But now.... those items have been removed from the box he has with you in it.  You feel the vacancy because all those things used to belong to you - and now he's given them to someone else.

Now.... think about how you would respond if he were to ask YOU about whether you were cheating on him.  You might be insulted - somewhat.  But more likely - if you truly love him - you'd want to know what you're doing to make him feel that way.  And then you'd try to correct those things - to make him feel better.  If he said that you were giving all your free time to others, you'd give him more.  If he said that you don't talk to him anymore, you'd work at that.  You wouldn't just get defensive.  You would be most concerned with fixing what's making him feel crappy - so he didn't feel crappy.  Even if nothing that you were doing was technically.... "wrong".  If he's not doing that, you've got a problem there, hon.

Men don't look at other men's bodies with longing just because they want a similar body.  I only know one bodybuilder that was like that.  Who said that.  And he would up cheating - with men.  Straight men are NOT interested in other men's bodies.  It's repulsive to them.  They might ask a bro how many repetitions he did at what weight in order to build up his biceps like that.  But they wouldn't be looking through pics of dudes.  Nope, nope, nope.

You absolutely deserve the truth.  You are not likely to get it, unfortunately.  It's all going to come down to whether you're happy this way, whether you've communicated that to him, and what he's doing about it.  If he either can't or won't fix things, then you need to decide what you'd want to do if things never, ever changed.

Kel


You are not required to set yourself on fire to keep other people warm.
 

May 18, 2017 2:26 pm  #7


Re: How do I talk to him?

All this and just imagine what you haven't found out! My understanding is that bi-sexuality is just the limbo state for the true self. Teenagers for example may experience both, and esp in this day and age it's accepted more and more; then choose within the next few years one orientation over the other and abandon the bi-sexual part. Studies show that at a confusing age most actually go straight. Older people on the other hand do the same but end up gay.

I don't know the age of your man but I can guess he's not a teen and leaning more and more to his natural choice.

Wife and kids are like a comfort blanky that can also be used as a smoke screen to hide behind until the choice is made, and usually for them by someone else.

In my case I know this man loves me and has an emotional attachment but his sexual attraction is for men. I feel he just wants to marry me for that reason. When a nice looking couple walks into a room...He'll stare more at the guy. Theres been times he doesn't even look at the woman. Strange huh?

Last edited by awake (May 18, 2017 2:29 pm)

 

May 18, 2017 3:42 pm  #8


Re: How do I talk to him?

When you're unmarried but considering someone you're dating as a potential spouse, you need to pay attention to EVERYthing.  What are their strong points?  What are their weak points?  If they have a memory problem, then you're going to be dealing with that moving forward.  If they have a faithfulness issue, then you will have more in the future.  The dating phase is one of best behavior.  If you're having big issues then, WALK AWAY.  Tying yourself to someone forever is a huge decision.  It shouldn't be taken lightly.  You should never feel as though your partner is "eh, good enough".  You should feel perfectly fitted to each other.  If not, MOVE ON.  You do not live in the jungle, with this being the only person for miles that you can pick.

Kel


You are not required to set yourself on fire to keep other people warm.
 

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