It hurts so bad, is he sick or is he gay?

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Posted by Lola
August 19, 2022 12:38 pm
#1

Hi everyone,

I don’t know how to begin this, but let just say, I am completely lost and it hurts so bad.

I am now my 30’s and it has been 3 month now that I discovered my fiancé was gay.
We know each other since high school. Since then we always had been together planing to be Married when studies will be over and both work.

We agreed from the beginning that we will never be physical out side of mariage, as Islam thought us not to be. It was then clear for both of us. We do not live together either. Time has passed and the plan of being married was always postponed for all sorts of reasons, mostly coming from him.

I know his family and he knows mine.
All of them doesn’t understand why he doesn’t settle.

3 month ago from now, I got into his stuff when I was alone in his apartment. And discovered  things that led me to think he was having sexual relationship with men.
I confronted him with it, from this a deep conversation happened, one that was so meaningful like no others in 16years of knowing each other.
He opened up to me, and explained that he was rapped by multiple men (family members) during childhood, that he suffered also from the sick physical violence from his father from birth to late teenage years (that I knew already), all of that got Him lost, and prevents him from having a normal life. Normal life means go to work ( he doesn’t work, I pay for his rent), having a normal relationship with his family, none of his brother and sister talk to him, or planing to be soon married to my, as he was afraid of destroying me and the mariage, as he is deeply depressed. He was for a long time addicted to drugs. He got over it this year. I also think he is addicted to sex.

From this conversation, he became more distant then he already was. I kept looking after him, as I was completely lost, I needed answers. The only response I had was “ I am sick, all of this it’s not me, I don’t understand what is happening with me, it is killing me and killed me for all those years, the only thing that stopped me from killing myself it’s you, every time I go on a bridge and want to jump, I remember you, I know what I want, and I want it with you, but I can’t and it has been killing me for so long”.

One month after the revelation, i still deeply love him, and trying to figure out how we can make this work.
He is more distant that he ever was.
Two weeks from now, I decided to download Grindr, and found him in it. I talked to him as if I was I guy, and ask him all the questions he never answered me.

This is where the real pain begin,
He basically was  in vacation with some friends, I was not aware of it.
He is bottom, exclusively bottom, he likes being treated as a female during sex (his words). From what I understood he doesn’t sexually use his penis. He only receive sodomy, and other stuff. But do not do it himself to others. I asked him if he was in couple, to that he answered  yes with a women( me) he also shared a photo of us… offering an imaginary threesome, in which the guy would have taken me and him…
I finally asked him if he was bisexual or gay, he said, officially I’m bi.. but…
I said so the girl it’s just for the fam. To which he said yes.
Also during the conversation, he said that he was exclusively submissive to white men, because white men are superior to us brown people. Which I genuinely do not understand.
At the end of the conversation I finally revealed that it was me.
The only answer I got from him is : “ I’m not doing vacation, I’m trying not to kill myself, I knew  it was you on Grindr, so I gave you what you wanted, I already told you I’m sick, why are you looking for more, why you need to humiliate me”

I feel used, betrayed, I feel like my world is ending, that I gave my life, my love and my money  to someone who only used me as an alibi.
The thing that  kills me the most, is that I still love him so much, I feel also sorry for him, but in the meantime, I cannot believe that all of those years was a lie…

I don’t have any answers, I am still lost as it is very new, if you are reading this, if your Muslim or not, no that you are not alone, no one talk about this in our communities, it is shameful, it shouldn’t. So much harm could have been prevented from just communication.
I also can’t understand why I still want somehow that things work between us, I think I hope that He really is sick and that it’s not really him. That he didn’t used me on purpose and that he really want me as I want him.
I know it’s an illusion, that the most likely is that he is gay, and used me. But it hurts… I’m not really sure what I am looking for here, maybe others that succeeded in staying together and monogamous…

Last edited by Lola (August 19, 2022 7:46 pm)

 
Posted by Ellexoh_nz
August 19, 2022 1:46 pm
#2

Lola wrote:

.....I also can’t understand why I still want somehow that things work between us, I think I hope that He really is sick and that it’s not really him.

 
Welcome to our Forum Lola ❤️ Your story is heart-wrenching to read. And you're living this alone because it sounds like your fiance has given all the responsibility of his situation, his depression and his messed up life to you.... To worry about, to fix? and he knows you'll probably keep doing it because you love him.

You will have to decide who you want to save. I don't think you can save both of you and stay together because depression is bigger than love. And I believe gay and bi sexuality comes second to the r'ship with a straight person because gay/bi has been there longer than the love for a straight spouse.

Yes we're mostly alone in this and yes it's not fair but this man is making you responsible for his life and that is not right!. If you were standing in front of me I would wrap my arms around you and just hold you tight.

You say you don't live together? I would think that would make it easier to uncouple from your hurtful situation. But first you have to decide who to save.... yourself or the r'ship with a man who doesn't really know who he is

Edited to say...Lola you are so young! If you stay your situation may not change. It may simply go deeper. In another 30 years you may be like many of us and resigned to living out the rest of your life with the man who turned it upside down. He's made you his lifeline so if he drowns you will go down too. You have to be stronger than your love for him

Elle

Last edited by Ellexoh_nz (August 19, 2022 2:45 pm)


KIA KAHA                       
 
Posted by Lola
August 19, 2022 2:50 pm
#3

 “ If you were standing in front of me I would wrap my arms around you and just hold you tight.

You say you don't live together? I would think that would make it easier to uncouple from your hurtful situation. But first you have to decide who to save.... yourself or the r'ship with a man who doesn't really know who he is”

Hello Elle ♥️

Thank you for your answer,

I definitely want to save myself, I already had multiple sessions with a therapist, and want to keep going with her. I want to find myself back. I feel so lost, and I don’t have any answers from him.

Yes, we are not married yet so we don’t live together, I know a lot of people here a were married couples, we are not, but I gave 16 years into this relationship, I have never knew any other man than him.

Knowing all of his hidden life did not instantly made me not loving him anymore. I still want good for him. Maybe anger will come in the process, but for now I am mostly trying to fight denial and sadness.

The hug would have been warmly welcomed ♥️
Lola

 
Posted by Victo
August 19, 2022 3:34 pm
#4

Hugs.  This is a painful story to read.  I’m so sorry you are going through this.

For your own sake, you are probably going to need to figure out how to get away from him.  It should be clear by now that the hopes and dreams you had were never real.  It isn’t at all your fault.  This man is committed to his secrets more than to you or anything else.

If you want to find a good man for yourself, you are probably going to have to figure out how to do that apart from him.  What other ways might you find the happiness you are looking for?

EDIT:  I am a heterosexual man.  As a heterosexual man, I would never be interested in what he is interested in.  NEVER.  Soo… to me, he sounds like he is fully gay.

Last edited by Victo (August 19, 2022 3:36 pm)

 
Posted by Lola
August 19, 2022 4:07 pm
#5

The thing is that at first I was like okey maybe he is bi, we can figure it out, maybe he was ashamed of having also desire for men, as it is forbidden by our religion, that is why he was so distant. But if he also has desire for me, maybe it can work.
So I hang on that for a while.

And now, I mean he has been more talkative and truthful with a “stranger” on Grindr than with me on 16 years.
I’m trying to understand his past, is actions in the present, but also reminding me that from now on, I should put me first. As you said he is more dedicated to his secrets than anything else. It’s so sick, I cannot believe all of this, how I ended up in this, How he never touched me, putting this on faith beliefs, and having a hidden sexual life way far from being religious. I got to a point were I ask myself if something was wrong with me. Because ok we agreed on not having physical intimacy before marriage, but we are humans. He never ever touched me on 16 years. So yes, I just have to make up my mind that he is gay, and he also is probably sick and need psychological support.

I’m sorry for the ones going through this, but it feels relieving to be understood.

 
Posted by Ellexoh_nz
August 19, 2022 4:40 pm
#6

Lola wrote:

 ..
I definitely want to save myself....

Lola.. can you insist on a time apart, by this I mean no contact...NO contact at all...for a specific time so you have the space to clear your mind and really think about everything?
 


KIA KAHA                       
 
Posted by Daryl
August 19, 2022 6:13 pm
#7

Lola, you can still want good for him. You don't have to be the one to create that for him. If fact, I don't believe that anyone of us can be the author of another person's happiness. One must write that story for themselves.


“The future is unwritten.”
― Joe Strummer
 
Posted by Victo
August 19, 2022 6:29 pm
#8

Nobody can be the architect of another person’s happiness, but a person can certainly be the architect of another person’s unhappiness.  Ask me how I know.

Given this, it is almost certainly best for you to focus on yourself.

 
Posted by Lola
August 19, 2022 6:55 pm
#9

Thank you all for your response,

To Elle:
I already have no contact at all for 3 weeks now, as he is completely silent. It was and still is hard, but I think my mind is clearer that way. I’m not completely sure about myself, I feel I cannot trust my instincts anymore. Because I still want somehow things ti be manageable between us. So I for sure need more time to really think about everything like you said.

To Daryl and Victo:
I obviously cannot provide him happiness, he needs therapy. Whatever the ending will be, he has to heal from his trauma and figure out who he is. And on my side, to know and learn back my worth, and to put my happiness above all. He certainly has acted on my unhappiness. I hope Victo you are well.

I’m sending all of you my gratitude ♥️

 
Posted by Rob
August 22, 2022 1:00 pm
#10

Lola,

16 years is long time to be engaged and not living together.
That certainly takes strong love which you have shown.   
  From what you describe he has not shown the same.   
   We should be enough for our spouses/partners..we should be more than enough.  I spent decades trying to be enough and make my GX happy..in the end her gayness explains a lot of why I couldn't and why she was always unhappy.  Her saying I was the cause of her unhappiness when I was devoted, loving heterosexual husband was not something I could fix.

Wishing you strength and courage on your journey.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 


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