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Posted by Lostandconfused1234
August 26, 2024 10:22 am
#1

My wife of 20 years has come out as lesbian about 3 months ago. We are Christians and have 2 children, an 18yo and a 16yo. It wasn't shocking to me that she came out because for years she has always watched lesbian shows, read lesbian romance novels exclusively, and has had a couple emotional affairs with women. What changed was that she said the quiet thing aloud, and it destroyed me. Various other things have occurred this past year which I think contributed to this revelation, but ultimately they were only a catalyst. To clarify, I am no saint either and have had emotional affairs as well. Neither my wife nor I ever went as far as a physical affair. We both are open and honest with one another, and we both want to stay married. I just need help understanding how this is supposed to work. This post wordy enough, but I can elaborate further in reply. There is a lot more to unpack. Any advice would be helpful.

 
Posted by Alex1984
August 26, 2024 1:15 pm
#2

Hi Lost, welcome to the club nobody wanted to be a part of!

You can make your marriage work! Successful "mixed orientation" marriages are easier when both spouses are religious. Society puts too much focus/value on who we are sexuality attracted to, but while being a part of her that isn't going away, being attracted to the same sex is not the core of your wife's identity (believe me, people will sadly try and reduce her to her sexuality).

While it is 100% possible, you are at the start of a tough journey. Below are two links to my previous posts.

Stages mixed orientation marriages go through:
https://straightspouse.boardhost.com/viewtopic_mobile.php?id=3666

Stages the straight spouse goes through:
https://straightspouse.boardhost.com/viewtopic_mobile.php?pid=41007#p41007

We are not religious, so our story is very different, but we are 9 months post-disclosure with my bi/gay-leaning husband and things are settling and I am very happy. You can read my other posts if you search by my name.

A good book for you to read would be "An Impossible Marriage" by Laurie Krieg.

As you work through this, make sure you make it as much about you as you make it about your wife. You are equally in this relationship and your needs, concerns and pain points also have to be recognized and addressed.

Good luck and stay strong! ❤️

Last edited by Alex1984 (August 26, 2024 1:17 pm)

 
Posted by Lostandconfused1234
August 26, 2024 2:14 pm
#3

Thank you for the response Alex, I have already read several books including "An impossible marriage". Although it did take this whole situation from a faith based perspective, my critique of it is that their whole process seemed very cerebral and the kriegs used a lot of imagination and roleplay. Ultimately it seems being blessed with another child seemed to help Laurie through her trauma, but that's not exactly going to work for us. I do want to add that we are still sexually engaged with one another, and she still desires me even though other men do not appeal to her. I'm hoping that this is a positive indication that we'll be ok, but I know were not going to be out of the woods for some time. I feel like the 3 year statistic is ever looming over my head. Even after we seemed to come to an agreement, she reached out to another woman online. Fortunately I found out about it the same day and she was very apologetic. But my trust is broken at this point and our relationship is starting to feel like a facade. Everytime she has slipped up, the only thing that prevented it from progressing was the other woman. Its like she doesn't understand the gravity fragile situation were in. She's more trying to figure out her identity and expecting me to set the boundaries. Ive basically told her that I can never embrace that side of her because it runs counter to our marriage. I don't want to be some tyrant imposing rules on our relationship, I wish she would come up with boundaries on her own.

 
Posted by lily
August 26, 2024 4:29 pm
#4

Hi 1234,

It sounds like you are the only adult in the room - you are right, what sort of a relationship is it where she is expecting you to set boundaries, only to break them anyway.  sorry to say but it sounds just like the majority of us, where the gay one is manipulative, and the straight one puts up all the biscuit.

You're in your 40's now?  I remember feeling like it was all over bar the shouting and so not wanting to end my marriage even though I was not feeling happy.  even though it was more that I was feeling anxious than content.  If I could go back in time I would swing right behind the part of me that wanted to leave and say let's get the hell out of here.

 

 
Posted by Alex1984
August 26, 2024 5:16 pm
#5

Hi Lost,

I agree with Lili, it does feel like you are the adult in the room. It is very common as same-sex attracted spouses go through the "second adolescence", but it doesn't mean you should tolerate it beyond your level of comfort. However, just like with teenagers, you might have to be the one setting boundaries - at least for a while. They need to be your boundaries and you need to be 100% committed to following through with the consequences.

You mentioned you will never get on-board with her same sex attraction... I hate to say it, but, even though it's not central to who she is as a person, it is still a part of her. You rejecting it will make your MoM success almost impossible.

You need to think through how you can embrace her ssa and at the same time what your boundaries are, so you show her acceptance without causing yourself pain. Can you read lesbian romance with her? Look at and discuss other women? Include more "lesbian" play into your sex life and let her fantasise about women from time to time, while other times ask her to be present and focus on you? Share what you find attractive in women and let her share as well? Anything to let her feel that you accept that part of her.

This "acceptance of other vs not causing yourself pain" is a very challenging balance in our situation. It will require time to find. Pain is almost inevitable, even if you are with a caring and committed partner. If your relationship had challenges beyond ssa, the equation becomes even harder to solve. If you are not ready for it, I would echo the MOM-naysayers and suggest you start thinking about separation.

Oh yeah, the 3 year statistic... remember, statistics only tells us about the past, the future is for us to create! Our society is broken. Therapists are not equipped to work with MOMs. Sexuality is put centre-stage of everyone's lives - be they gay or straight. The narrative from every corner is that if you have ssa, you have to act on it, otherwise you're not authentic. This is total BS! Imagine you liked blonds and your wife is a brunette (or the other way around), nobody expects you to go have sex with blonds "to be authentic". It's exactly the same with her liking women. So what.

Either way, whether you stay or leave, it is an opportunity to grow. Good luck and a virtual hug!

Last edited by Alex1984 (August 26, 2024 5:24 pm)

 
Posted by HeldHostageInHerCloset
August 26, 2024 11:30 pm
#6

I have found myself in a similar situation, but she has been writing the romance novels, not just reading them. 
I would suggest you pay attention to her behavior in regards to her faith. Does she have anyone holding her accountable? Maybe suggest something like Celebrate Recovery for both of you. 

Mine had begun acting strange towards our church, Intially during covid, she would stay home long after the rest of us had returned. Then she had no problem attending her martial arts class where she'd be grappling. When she did attend, so obviously had no interest, staring blankly, sneaking out when the kids were in class. Just completely detatched, then crystals, candles, and other signs of witchcraft. Keep an eye out. If she's not plugged into your faith, then she's hiding her actions. 

I'm still in the middle of this myself. Early on, I wanted things to work out, I worked on myself, fixing my own issues, but she just doubled down on everything, and lies became more obvious. 

 
Posted by Lostandconfused1234
August 27, 2024 6:26 am
#7

We did have another discussion last night and I asked her about the boundaries, if she is truly ok with them and understands why. She does agree with them and wants to make sure that I'm ok. She did admit that the feeling after coming out was intoxicating, and Im sure it had to feel very liberating, but she lamented the hell that it has put me through. I'm trying my hardest to not dwell on the hypothetical and she has stated multiple times that I'm her person and she only wants to be with me. We both know that rebuilding the trust is going to be a process. As far as her faith, she still believes whole heartedly, but is still confused as to why she is the way she is. We still go to church together and she doesn't sneak around. We very much discuss our plans in detail and know what the other is doing all the time. She's always been very down to earth so things like astrology, crystals, or witchcraft never appealed to her. She's also not very artistically inclined so writing books or making art isn't her thing. She loves going out on the town and loves having a group of friends to hang out with. Part of her coming out was due to her going out with her coworkers who validate that side of her. That being said, they do not enable cheating behaviors. I have been out with them and their husbands before and have no reason to not trust them. I think the term "second adolescence" fits the situation perfectly. She's spent so much of her life parenting and wife-ing that this gave her a reprieve. It's not a good excuse, but gives me some level of closure. She is a good woman who loves me dearly and I don't want to share life with anyone else. She's going out this Friday with her work friends (someone has a birthday) and I'm going to put my chips on the table. I'm going to bet on us. I will have to find something for me to do in the meantime, as sitting around the house alone only causes me anxiety.

 


 
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