(S)he is actually leaving!

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Posted by Marianne
February 7, 2022 2:29 pm
#1

I'd like to share the latest events and also ask for more advice.

So my husband (who came out to me as bisexual and trans woman after 9 years of marriage) agreed to move out. I thought it would take him months to find a new apartment, he's usually very slow to decide on anything. In reality, it took only a few days. He moved there last Saturday and he will take the rest of his stuff this week. He did not dress like a woman or talk like a woman to spare me of the discomfort (our language has different adjective and verb endings for male/female). It was nice of him, but on the other hand, it made the farewell even harder because he seemed like the old husband I was so devastated to lose.

In the meantime, he seemed to back up just as OoHC predicted: "When he started to contemplate the consequences he would experience as a mannish looking transwoman, it brought him down out of his fantasy land high."
His anxiety and negativity took over. Last night he wrote me a message, desperately wanting to come home and bury the trans stuff forever. I felt that I would accept my husband back anytime... but I also realized this was not "him" anymore and never would be. And I don't want to go back to the same situation that obviously didn't work for any of us.

Thank you OoHC for warning me. I know this must be difficult for him and I feel sorry for him but he is responsible for his own future now. He also asked me not to tell anyone about TTT but I refused.

Right now I'm just very sad. I try various things to cheer up but it will probably take some time.

Anyway, here's the thing bothering me now: I plan to tell my parents next weekend. I already discussed this with my therapist and she suggested several things like telling them it's OK to be shocked and it's OK to have trouble believing it at first. But maybe you have some insight how to make it easier for them. 

 
Posted by Ellexoh_nz
February 7, 2022 3:00 pm
#2

Marianne wrote:

.....Anyway, here's the thing bothering me now: I plan to tell my parents next weekend. I already discussed this with my therapist and she suggested several things like telling them it's OK to be shocked and it's OK to have trouble believing it at first. But maybe you have some insight how to make it easier for them. 

 

I love how you want to make it easier for them when you're the one in pain. 

Talk quietly, be thoughtful, don't try to fill the silences (that will probaly happen)
 with words. Let them...tell them it's okay....to ask questions

Elle


KIA KAHA                       
 
Posted by OutofHisCloset
February 7, 2022 4:13 pm
#3

Marianne,
    Your husband wanting to "bury the trans stuff" is a commonly observed behavior in trans-identifying men (AGPs).  It's part of the "binge and purge" cycle of behavior. Many men go through endless repetitions of this cycle.  But the urge to dress and the desire to be a woman never really go away; it just retreats for a while before it comes roaring back.  My ex described it as "an itch that is nearly always there."  And from my experience and observation of my husband's behavior, I would say that like all itches, when you scratch it the itch escalates.  This is why their behavior looks like the behavior of addiction: at first a little indulgence satisfies them, but they soon become acclimatized and want more; this, too, is a cycle.  So you are quite right that if you allowed him to return, he would never be the same person, the same man, as he was before his revelation.  Nor would his urge dissipate or disappear.  It's buit into them.  I also happen to think they want to "come home" or "bury the trans stuff" because they can't help their desires and want to indulge their fantasies, but are afraid to fully "live their truth"; they are attracted and repelled by it at the same time.  They count on our support and our acceptance, even though they cannot fully accept themselves.  It's frightening to think of launching out into the world and jettisoning all the ballast.  It's scary enough for us to contemplate life on our own.  

 As for your parents, I can only say that I just decided to tell her the truth, calmly, without embellishment. When I then told my mother (my father is dead) that I was divorcing my husband because he had decided he was a woman, her first response was a surprised bark of laughter.  I suspect she found absurd the vision of the man she knew dressed in women's clothes.  Her second response, when she had regained her composure, was to say I was better off out of that crazy. 

  Only you know your parents, but I would imagine that they would understand if you tell them that because your husband no longer considers himself a man--and therefore your husband--and has also said he is bisexual, and therefore wants to have sex with both men and women, which effectively ends the marriage, you will be divorcing him.  

 

Last edited by OutofHisCloset (February 7, 2022 4:25 pm)

 
Posted by walkbymyself
February 8, 2022 2:54 pm
#4

Marianne, it's so hard, I know, but you sound like you really have your goals clear.  I'm glad you decided to tell your parents.  


Relinquere fraudator, vitam lucrari.
 
Posted by Leslie77
February 8, 2022 6:14 pm
#5

Marianne - not surprised at all by your husband's immediate turnaround.  Mine did the same thing.  After we decided to definitely split and he realized he could do whatever he wanted ... he decided he wanted ME.  I knew it would be short-lived and I was not impressed by his declarations of undying love.  

I haven't posted here in months.  But I'm coming up on my two year anniversary of moving out (February 16, 2020) and subsequently divorcing, and the pain and hurt that was the worst in the those last couple of months of living with him has been replaying in my mind. 

Tell your parents and whoever else you want.  My dad (age 90+) was not surprised or shocked.  I told the people who are closest to me because it is my story too.  Good luck and best wishes to you as you proceed in your new life.  I never considered for one minute taking back my trans-identifying husband, after I moved out.  I knew life with him would be a repeat of his foolish behavior and infliction of misery on me, the person who tried her best to be The Good Wife for a decade.  

 
Posted by Rob
February 9, 2022 7:40 am
#6

Marianne

Problem is if you take him back you know what you will get and find..more hurt. secrets and anxiety.    If you go out to the store is he home trying on your clothes?  Why should you have to wonder?
The problem with these spouses is their word no longer has credibility and integrity.  I don't know what proofs they can offer. 

Wishing you strength and healing.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 
Posted by Marianne
February 13, 2022 10:18 am
#7

Thank you for all the support.

So I finally told them. I had to do it by phone because of the current covid situation here. I planned to call them just after lunch but in reality I procrastinated and paced nervously for another two hours before I found the strength to do it.

They seemed much less shocked than I expected. They were very supportive to me, they said they'd do anything to help me. And they didn't start hating my husband, but showed empathy.

It's a huge relief.

 
Posted by Gloria
February 13, 2022 12:44 pm
#8

Good news Marianne. I have been concerned about you.

 


 
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