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Posted by LostAtSea
January 9, 2021 6:07 pm
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I'm going to start off by saying I am not Catholic and have no idea on the views of trans/bi/gay individuals. I need some help understanding why a priest would speak to me that way he did.

I called the priest that married us. I asked him for assistance to get an annulment. Since I do not belong to any churches, no one will call me back. I didn't want to tell him why as he is a family friend to my soon to be EX family.
I said I know you know why annulments are granted. He said please tell me why you think you need an annulment. I tell him the entire story. EX trans and bi or gay and lying, deceitful and on dating websites etc.

Yesterday I called him back to say thanks for our talk, but I found someone to help me. He starts to say can I please ask you to be respectful to his mother (my mother in law). He said do not attack her because of her son's actions. He said I spoke to her briefly today. I was taken aback!

I told him the whole story of how I was yelling on speaker to him and her when I found out he was on websites chatting with men.  After he told his mother he was on dating websites to get "validation" to see what it felt like to be wanted by men. I NEVER knew he did this. But these sites were not validation, he was to hook up!

He had me all fooled that he was just confused and sucidial trying to accept he was trans. He never said, I was on porn and dating sites and emailing men. I yelled over the phone  on speaker with her listening, he was on websites looking to be F by men! This is WHO HE IS now! I have done nothing by stand beside him even after he shattered my world and he just wants to destroy me everyday. I have heard his cries and suffering. I stood beside him in life when he family never calls to check on him including his mother, She was like no he was just looking for validation, I said NO he was not. I was screaming and crying and she tells him I don't want to listen anymore, get her off the phone. Get her off! And they hang up on me.

The priest proceeds to tell me, what good does it do you to let her know about his dating sites, emails and then I uncovered text messages and nude pics to men. I sent her the email of the text messages and pics, but she doesn't open the email and deletes it. I said so she can SEE who he really is because he is not telling her the truth. I said when I talk to him and his is all emotional and crying, she thinks I'm making her son suffer when he is the one that makes me suffer. I will not sit her and have my character assassinated from what she tells you because I know the whole truth.  I said since this news has come out, I have texted her checking on her, I have told her if she needs a therapist we can sit in one together, I have found therapist that takes her insurance, and I have encouraged her to talk to her son but she won't. Almost one month has gone by and they are both in the same house, but she refuses to discuss because she needs time to absorb. He calls me saying she won't talk to him so I text her encouraging her son needs to give her time. I said I help this family so much and for her to give you a bad impression of me is unfair!

The priest told me I needed to forgive them. I said NO, that entire family needs to learn to forgive themselves because their inactions speak louder than words. NO ONE in his family has called me except once when they found out we were divorcing but didn't know why. Now they know why and no one has called to check on me our shown any remorse. I take care of my mother in law from afar, meanwhile her grown 55 year old son land daughter in law ives 10 houses away and doesn't even go by to see his recently widow mother. I told the priest that is the kind of family they ARE.

He said please thou show show compassion. I said thou shall also not covet thy neighbor and forsake of all others.....he pauses and said that is true.

I said how is me telling my mother in law WHO her son really is attacking her? I said if she can't deal with who he really is, that is not my fault.  I told him I do not care what this family tells you, I KNOW the whole truth. 

He ends the call with I will pray for you. I said no, please pray for all of them as they are the sinners!
 

Last edited by LostAtSea (January 9, 2021 6:17 pm)

 
Posted by LoneWolf
January 9, 2021 6:21 pm
#2

My impression of Catholicism (as a secular jew married to a person severely traumatized by the catholic church) is that this isn't beyond the pale for the institution. He (my husband) spent most of his life being driven into the closet with shame directed at his very being from childhood until a few months ago. It runs deep. Sin. Redemption. Repression. Coverups. 

I know that doesn't answer the question, but I'm not surprised by how frustrating their answer was to you. And hoping you find an approach that gets you the resolution you need!

Last edited by LoneWolf (January 9, 2021 6:22 pm)

 
Posted by LostAtSea
January 9, 2021 6:33 pm
#3

Might I add, I think he is upset with himself for marrying us. He said did you know?? Umm hello, if I knew would I be marrying him!!??

He also said if he told you he is now trans and possibly wanted to be with me, you are F up for even thinking about staying. He said he is F up for marrying you and you are F up too.

He tells me you prolonged your suffering for EVEN thinking about staying. He said that is NOT right and it's a SIN.

I said yes you are right. I was foolish to listen to my heart because I believed in "US". I said I feel like he was my soulmate and I wanted to stand beside him. I said foolish me Father for allowing him to con me and for me believing in him.

 


 
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