Posted by Julian_Stone September 18, 2019 5:41 pm | #1 |
Many of you have mentioned the need to "emotionally detach"—and I think that makes a lot of sense — whether you're trying to make a MOM work or you've already separated.
I've had this knot in my stomach since my husband (much to my absolute shock and confusion) revealed he is bisexual on his 35th birthday. TGT has taken a toll on me both physically and emotionally. I was already pretty thin but lost nearly 20 lbs in a matter of weeks, and it's been incredibly difficult focusing on work. (I know so many of you can relate to this.) Because we have a three-year-old daughter—who is the sweetest, happiest preschooler on the planet— I'm desperately trying to make this work. I often pray that I would fall out of love with my husband so this wouldn't be so damn difficult. I have zero proof of infidelity — just this horrible anxiety, which is quite foreign to me. I'm in a perpetual state of waiting for the other shoe to drop.
I think often of the film Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I've not seen it, but I get the premise: a couple undergoes some sort of treatment to forget their relationship ever happened. Sometimes I think...God, wouldn't that be nice? But that is Hollywood, and this is (unfortunately) real life.
So, my question is: How does one go about emotionally detaching? Are there any specific therapies / activities / changes you've made to stop the hurt from taking up so much real estate in your head and your heart?
Posted by OutofHisCloset September 18, 2019 7:36 pm | #2 |
One thing that helped me detach emotionally--to fall out of love--was to learn about the outlines of abuse and the tactics of narcissists (covert and overt). Learning about such things as the silent treatment, passive aggressive behaviors, minimizing, manipulating, projecting, DARVO (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender), false equivalence, future faking, situational emotions and ethics, etc, enabled me to understand my ex's behavior. I also learned to pay attention to what he did, and not what he said.
Once I had this key to understanding his behavior, and watching him use these tactics on me, I was a lot less susceptible to his emotional manipulation and the wild emotions his behavior had previously called up in me. Instead, I saw him as if from behind glass, like I was a scientist studying his behavior and classifying it, and nodding my head as I identified the practice in which he was engaging. Once I could do that, I started understanding the degree to which he was willing to manipulate and use me for his own ends. It's easier to fall out of love with someone and emotionally detach when you are no longer making excuses for someone else's rotten behavior or paying attention to their words rather than their behavior. Knowing my then husband was willing to use me as he did for his own selfish purposes taught me that he couldn't possibly love me--or he wouldn't keep doing what he was. I also began to trust that anything he said was not to be taken at face value: he'd say anything to protect his closet. And his closet was far more important to him than I was.
Chump Lady has some excellent archived posts on all of this, and she's the one who first opened my eyes to seeing my ex's behavior clearly and understanding his motives.
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Posted by Rob September 18, 2019 10:09 pm | #3 |
I used to do hobbies and house projects to keep my mind off the "elephant in the room". Time away also .. the park, mall, library.. Reconnectoing with friends and family helps for sure.
I recall for me ,with an actively cheating gay spouse ,the feeling was not so much a knot in my stomach so much as a constant "fight or flight" adrenaline that left me both shaking and exhausted sometimes. If you have a constant
anxiety that is interfering with work, taking care of your kid etc I recommend seeing a psychiatrist for antidepressants.. I needed those to get through TGT and my divorce. I called them the "indifference" pills because my GX was on them and they could certainly make me indifferent and with less empathy...like her. Detached.
Being an empath myself I needed help .. I was not ashamed ....they were not something I was to be on forever..
He should not be surprised when he finally noticed you not interested or detaching.. Our spouses and marriage were not supposed to make us anxious and in a state of constant worry and fear.
Posted by walkbymyself September 19, 2019 7:58 am | #4 |
Julian, welcome, and I'm so sorry you're going through this.
In my case, things just took time. I'd spent 24 years taking care of him, and those habits don't vanish overnight. Another difficulty was that I had deferred to his judgment on so many things, particularly financial matters, but also questions like "where should we go on vacation" or "are we doing Christmas at home this year." So when for me, the extent of his lying very gradually came into focus and I kept trying to get him to give me reality-based answers -- I kept arguing, trying to get him to make sense, trying to force-feed him reality. It was hard to face the fact that I was going to be the adult in the room -- because I'd ceded that role to him for so long. I see a lot of people on this forum that I think struggle with the same kind of role-reversal; it's hard to see the person who was supposed to be an adult turn into a child.
I think what helped for me, was to understand that he is a different person than the guy I fell in love with. The guy I fell in love with would never have lied to me, cheated on me, or stolen money for his own uses. Honestly, it's possible he never even existed.
Even now it's hard for me to stand aside and watch him twist in the wind. But I remember his suicide threats, and how the threat of suicide forced me to pull my punches and never hold him accountable for his own actions. I remember him manipulating our adult daughter with threats of suicide.
So I guess for me, the detachment took time and maybe still isn't complete but I'm far more aware of things now.
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Posted by Julian_Stone September 19, 2019 12:25 pm | #5 |
Thanks, all. I'm hopeful that it will get better in time...(I'm five months into this nightmare) but am slowly coming to the realization that as long as we're together, I'll never truly be able to heal from this. We just moved recently, so as soon as things settle down, I'm going to try to find friends here & create healthy distractions from TGT.
Posted by Lyonene September 19, 2019 12:32 pm | #6 |
"I often pray that I would fall out of love with my husband so this wouldn't be so damn difficult."
I can relate to this. Completely.
Do you want to stay with him and deal with all tgt entails? If yes, OOHC has given spot on advice. You can achieve emotional/mental distance by truly understanding the ins and outs of gaslighting, love bombing, narcissistic behavior, etc. Read, read and read some more.
If you decide that you want to stay with him on your terms, or not stay with him at all, it might look different. For example, generally bi claiming guys to a high percentage want a form of "open" marriage to satisfy the inclination to have male/male relations. They will further assert that this is a "need" for them. I would assert it's a "need" for me to satisfy my inclination to be with something he can't provide - my need to be with a straight man.
Posted by Rob September 20, 2019 7:52 am | #7 |
I would find home projects and hobbies to keep myself busy and get the "elephant in the room" out of my mind. t
Walks in the park, woods, the mall. Go to the library. All mental health things to do on your own and get away..
Then again, I had an actively cheating spouse.. At some point I could feel her emotional attachment shift from me to her girlfriend... I became a hated footnote or thorn in her life. In that way she helped me unlove her.. Do not be ashamed of your fierce love for your spouse.. it is an admirable trait... the fact that they trample it and make it seem like codependency or trauma bonding etc etc. is not us... its them and their morally broken cores.