Posted by Myriad September 8, 2019 7:37 am | #1 |
Hey all,
I'm glad I found this place, it's exactly what I've been looking for. There are just no local support groups for this sort of thing in my area.
I live in the south, in a very christian area, and my family isn't very accepting of anything outside of the social norm for this location, if you know what I mean. To them LGBT is a choice and a sin.
So here I am, in a long distance relationship with the sweetest person I've ever met. We visit each other a few times a year, and even went to San Francisco together over the summer. He was always a bit effeminate and was open about being bisexual, but a few weeks ago he came out as trans, with the intent to present female.
Personally, I'm not that bothered. I've known trans people online and I fully support people living their best lives and doing what makes them happy in life. The big wrench in all this is my family. There's no way I can bring my partner around them while he is presenting female. My family will not understand and I'll never hear the end of it. I can't imagine they would support us or want anything to do with us!
This is all in my mind atm, of course, because it hasn't happened yet, but I am so stressed at just the thought of it. I want to be supportive, but the thought of everyone in the same room sends my anxiety through the roof. I don't even have anyone local to talk to about this, it's very frustrating!
I know that my partner is still the same person they've always been, and they're still attracted to me. I guess I'm fortunate as far as that goes. I'm just really not looking forward to the uphill battle I know is ahead of us.
Thank you for giving me this space to vent!
Last edited by Myriad (September 8, 2019 7:37 am)
Posted by lily September 8, 2019 6:01 pm | #2 |
Even if your family believes the sky is green and the grass is purple it is an awful lot to lose their company - no wonder you feel anxious at the impending split between your love life and your family.
So, just to be completely blunt about it - if you are straight then why not look for a straight man who can love you back the way you need to be.
And anyway, just in terms of your relationship with him, why not restrict yourself to being friends as he goes through his process of transitioning? it's such an obvious thing to do - if he was being upfront with you wouldn't he be suggesting it himself? sounds highly manipulative to me. Which, from what I've seen is common amongst transgender men looking for a support wife. Yes read their stories here.
You can't really talk to your family about it, I can see that, so glad you found us, keep doing your research, and think about the subtext of your conversations with him - does he express concern about whether your emotional needs are being met?
if you are caring for him and he is caring for him, who is caring for you?
in my very strong opinion - a straight needs a straight. Look after yourself.
all the best, Lily
Posted by walkbymyself September 9, 2019 9:41 am | #3 |
I have to commend your partner. At least he started out the relationship with honesty and candor, which is more than most of us got.
Your concerns about your family are fair, but in truth they may be able to be a little more open than you give them credit for. I don't think your trans partner is ever going to live in your community comfortably, but on the other hand if you live in a more flexible community, you might be surprised at how your family ultimately comes to accept things.
You should try to remember, though, that there are other hurdles your relationship may confront, and by focusing on the problems with your family, you may be overlooking these other looming issues. Your partner may be seeing himself as at the end of a journey when in fact he's only in the very early stages. Read our stories, because many of us had spouses who believed in their thirties that they'd be able to sustain relationships for life -- only to realize in their sixties that they were still growing and changing, and the experiment in heterosexual marriage was a failure.
If you must invest in this relationship, I would urge you to do so slowly and cautiously. Imagine for a moment if you were asked to bless a relationship between an adult and a 14-year-old -- as open-minded as you want to be, you know the 14-year-old is not going to remain a child for life, and we all understand the reasons why this person shouldn't be locked into a lifetime commitment when they're not fully formed. By this same logic, I think someone who is in the early stages of becoming trans, is just not in any position to say 'This is who I am for life now, will you commit to me?" because they aren't their final self yet.
Posted by StrongerThanIKnew September 10, 2019 9:06 am | #4 |
Hi Myriad and welcome to the forum.
If I am understanding your post correctly, this is a long distance relationship and you see each other a few times a year, correct? What is the end game for this relationship? Are you discussing marriage? Moving in together, etc? Is that next step a good way down the road?
My ex spouse is trans. I also know a couple of trans folks IRL (one I even consider a friend) and one of my kids' best friends is trans and a regular visitor in our home, so I think it is fair to say that I have some experience in this matter.
The main thing is that supporting a friend through transition is a lot different than supporting a romantic partner through it. If a friend changes gender, it has very little (if any) effect on me. The hardest part is the stares that you get at the beginning stages when they don't quite pass yet, and that is harder with a MTF transition than a FTM one. That is usually just temporary though. As the hormones and surgeries and experience with hair and make-up, many will start to pass (unless they are really scrutinized). However, when a romantic partner transitions, you do as well. You become, by all outside appearances, a lesbian. If you marry, you gain a wife and her name will be on all forms and paperwork, etc., and that can be a difficult thing if that is just not who you are. Basically, your partner's coming out of the closet puts you in the closet.
Now, as walk mentioned, kudos to your partner for telling you this. Mine told me after we had been together 20+ years. This means that you are in the driver's seat. The vast majority of us here weren't given the option of willingly and knowingly entering into a MOM (mixed orientation marriage), but you are being given that choice.
So, I wouldn't worry too much about your family right now. Start thinking about yourself and what you want from this relationship. Is marriage the end game? If so, are you okay being in a same sex relationship. If you are, are you okay with taking on a more masculine role within that relationship? You see, many trans women have a hyper feminized idea of what being a woman really means, and they will often not want to do anything that they associate as part of the male gender role - taking out the trash, for example. Many natal females then find themselves taking on that role and find themselves questioning their own femininity - especially if they weren't the "girly girl" type to begin with.
That plus the long distance aspect of your relationship is going to make this a real challenge for you should you decide to stick this out. If you do decide it is worth pursuing, then you can worry about your family when the time comes. They may surprise you. My ex-FIL is a very conservative pastor yet fully embraced and accepted my ex's transition. All of that is down the road though, don't let it be a distraction for what is going on right now.
good luck to you.
Posted by StraightSpouse1979 September 10, 2019 4:31 pm | #5 |
Stronger:
I agree with your post 100%. I have been with my husband twenty years married ten and have a five year old daughter and he just told me around January that he started hormones six months prior. No plans on surgery but he looks like a butch female but worse because he has a chest larger than mine. Six foot six, hundred and eighty pounds rail thin withh a huge chest and tight shirts you can see his bra through. We have become separated though still live together for financial reasons. I have panic attacks anytime we go out with our daughter because of my anxiety of what the looks like. We dont do anything as a couple anymore. I am terrified being in our town together so i dont go anywhere with him around here for not wanting to run into anyone I know. The only thing that i have different than him is a vagina. He wears the same bra, underwear, socks, makeup, earrings, deoderant, as me. He goes to tran meetups every month, hes gone to virginia to stay at a tran females house for some group meet up, he wears clothing that looks like a 90s teenage girl or brittany spears backup dancer, he bought expensive exfoliaters female wet electric razors, laser hair removal, teeth whitening, pink car fresheners, neon hair ties, scrunchies that are in similar colors, so basically as you said over feminization where i feel like i have tesosterone and he doesnt. too much estrogen in this house. I havent had a hug in probably 6 months, havent held hands, dont cuddle, have no human interaction from what would be the romantic partner i shared 20 years with. So, if as you said the original poster is OK with being in a lesbian relationship with someone who may or may not trasnition not sure their story with that but for me if I could get away I would. I think its something to truly take a long hard look at before making that choice because as you also said and i have told my husband, if you were a friend i would have reacted much differently than my romantic relationship spouse.