Posted by phoenix January 31, 2019 9:55 am | #21 |
That's interesting Lily - that you are able to intertwine the logical and emotional parts of the anger and direct them more correctly where they belong. I hope it continues to get easier for you.
I wish I could completely forgive and be rid of my anger. That would be the ideal situation because in reality that anger I still hold harms only me. It doesn't impact the other person in the least bit. I would advise anyone to let go of that anger as soon as they are able to. But, what I've found in my life is that I can't ever force my feelings. I can set a goal and work toward something by thinking about it and reasoning with myself and maybe learning more about a topic or trying to view things from a different perspective, but I can't force it.
Posted by Brokenhearted January 31, 2019 12:41 pm | #22 |
Sitting in the living room last night, same old awkward silence and she asked if she could read me something. “The letter”. I’ve waited almost four weeks for a formal, heartfelt apology; ownership of the affair; and the deceleration of gayness. Early last week I found a draft of the letter where she stated “I’m gay” but I have patiently waited for my spouse to say these words. I listened as the familiar sentences were rolling out of her mouth. I knew it was coming... and she sobbed “I think I’m gay.” I sat there emotionless while the rest unfolded and a few new sentences were read, “ I don’t want to lose you or us.” “I dont know what all this means.” I....I.....I. At the end of it, I couldn’t help but say that I liked the first draft better where you said “I’m gay” rather than “I think I’m gay.” She was dumbfounded (the letter was poorly hidden in our bedroom-she hid an affair for two years, lately bad at hiding stuff). We talked for about two hours, or I mostly asked questions and broke down the letter. She finally admitted it’s not “think”, that she is gay but she wants us to stay together. I asked questions about what this means for us, does she foresee an open relationship (just her, both of us), does she want me to leave, does she want to leave, what she thought my response was going to be, how would she respond if I were reading the same letter? I got very little answers, she basically hadn’t thought about any of this (shocking!). I explained that I don’t want a one-sided open relationship; I don’t think it’s fair to leave a spouse waiting in the wings (especially after already having a two year affair), I don’t think it’s fair to have half a spouse or wait for you to show up with a full blown partner and kick me to the curb in two years; and I would prefer to separate and let her pursue her coming out on her own terms. I was actually really calm, she on the other hand was very sad, but it was a good talk. I held my ground. I’m sad that it had to happen obviously but I at least think she knows I’m not a wounded spouse (at least not in front of her) and I’m not content to sit around waiting. In fact, I told her she should spend the weekend away which would release some pressure in the house, “go do whatever you want hun, I’ll take a turn away next weekend.” I don’t know what the future holds but I feel like I established a position, a footing. I may slip but it’ll be my choice and I haven’t felt that in a few weeks. I couldn’t have done it without the support and advice found throughout this forum. I may be living hand to mouth in some crumby apartment in a few months and missing my kids like crazy but it will be my crumby apartment and I’ll work like hell to be a fixture in my kids lives.
Posted by lily January 31, 2019 3:58 pm | #23 |
Hi Brokenhearted,
can I suggest you don't leave the home. Divorce is even worse than you can imagine and you don't get to do it over again if it didn't work out fairly the first time.
My ex was stashing money in a secret bank account before I even knew he was gay or had any thought of divorce.
In terms of the stories we read here, over and again it is the gay one who is trying to financially abuse the straight partner in the divorce while we are trying to do the right thing by them. It might be worth consulting a lawyer now, just to get informed.
wishing you all the best, Lily
Posted by jkc1214 January 31, 2019 3:59 pm | #24 |
Reading all these stories has been very cathartic for me. It's so encouraging to read that others are feeling the same way I am and that that it's not a crazy thing to want true love and affection from your spouse. I seem to be surrounded by friends who think it's totally normal to not have sex after 22 years of marriage. Well, that's not the kind of marriage I want, and that's definitely not the kind of marriage I want to model for my children.
I'm 50 and wondering if I'll ever meet somebody and have true love and affection again, never mind sex. It's nice to hear men want that too. Maybe I'll get lucky (no pun intended) and meet someone who doesn't mind an older woman who despite working out and eating right is still a size 14. That's one thing that bugs me...by the time I made the decision to leave, I had gained weight and gotten older and now it's not gonna be easy to attract someone else.
As for holding onto anger, I agree with you Phoenix, the only person it hurts is yourself. I read a meme once that said "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die from it." So true, but it's not that simple or easy to let it go. I was SO angry for so long. Once I made the decision to separate from my husband I felt much better because I no longer felt trapped. It really helped. The other thing that helped is that I forced myself to look at my husband's reasons for marrying me. I know this may not be true for everyone, but I do know that he didn't do this out of spite or just to screw up my life. He thought he could make it work, but he was wrong. He tried, for many years he really tried. And even now, he does love me, it's just not the kind of love I'm looking for in a husband. That really helped me to let go of some of the anger as well,
At present, I am living in the in law apartment in our home. It's working out well. We are both there for our children. As brokenhearted said...it may be a small apartment, but it's mine and I'm still a fixture in my kids' lives. My next step is to separate our finances. Each step I take makes me feel better and better. Anything is better than feeling unloved and undesired and like I am crazy to stay in this marriage.
I am sending strength and healing to all of us that are dealing with this struggle. *hugs*
Posted by Daryl January 31, 2019 8:44 pm | #25 |
I agree with lily. Do not consider moving until you have legal agreements in place. In some jurisdictions this can be considered abandonment and you don't want to jeopardize your future rights as a parent. For now I think it's best to reside together but live apart other than co-parenting duties.
Good luck.
p.s. - the sadness may be a good sign. It shows that she realizes the seriousness of this situation and that there's no easily sweeping it away or pretending nothing happened. It may also indicate that there's still some sympathy for you in there unlike some of the entitled arrogance a few of us have had to deal with.