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April 18, 2017 6:15 pm  #1


when friends don't understand or support...

I've confided my suspicions to a couple of friends... they either think he's asexual or maybe possibly bi... I think they just can't fathom we have been together for 17 years and he was closeted the whole time.  My doctor whom I sobbed to one afternoon said "he's gay. I can recommend a therapist." I couldn't afford her $130 an hour.
​Other than coming here, I don't have anyone I can talk to, who is supportive or helpful. I am trying to start my own business and find myself feeling more and more apathetic. Part of me envisions being single and dating and finding my own happiness, but the parts of me that need to heal in order to get there, are spiraling around in limbo-land. I did have a counselor that was covered partly by insurance, but she was the least helpful person ever.  Just told me to leave him, knowing I haven't worked in years and we have a sizeable mortgage and kids to support. 

​I would give anything for him to just tell me the truth. I need closure or answers or something. Probably why I still snoop once or twice a week, and have read the emails from many years ago from that man he worked with, many times. But then I doubt what my gut tells me.  He has successfully manipulated me to the point where I actually feel badly for him... HE was this amazing husband and I ignored him. I didn't support him.  He has turned things around to his favor, and I'm sure that's the story he told his own counselor when he saw her. Except when I went along... then it was all about bragging about me, making her think he was this loving husband.

​I just sometimes can't take it anymore, and wish he'd just disappear and leave me sufficient funds to keep going. I am trapped and have felt that way for many years. 
Just venting 
thanks

 

April 19, 2017 5:56 am  #2


Re: when friends don't understand or support...

Lisa4kids,

Its hard for friends and family to wrap their head around..hell we need so much support trying to wrap our heads around it and process it. I don't begrudge any of my friends and family..they do what they can and what they can understand.
My one friend said he could not comphrehend it.. yep..neither can I.

Trapped. Yes..I think that crossed my mind as my ex raged at me to leave even though she had absolutely no money, no job, nothing.. that's my little secret here on the forum...I actually felt trapped wondering how to solve all the financial problems that she created with TGT.

I think there comes a point where things get so bad that money doesn't matter. An example would be my gay ex saying I could not see the kids.. I would sell my organs if I had to..

In my case I simply maintained status quo financially. Deciding what I wanted to do. Many problems I decided were not mine to solve. They can't betray us and then expect no consequences. .that the pieces of the marriage they like (ie $$) will stay the same while the pieces they don't like (ie hetero affection) can be discarded. They are not gods..they are not entitled to everything and us nothing.

Do what needs to be done...know that it is not forever..there is an end..you may not know when ..you can't see it..but it does exist. We are not citizens of the gay closet..we need not make our home there.

Last edited by Rob (April 21, 2017 5:55 am)


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

April 19, 2017 6:56 am  #3


Re: when friends don't understand or support...

Lisa, 

I'm glad you reached out to a couple of friends.  They may not understand what's going on or be able to wrap their heads around it, but I'm sure they will be there for you when you need a shoulder to cry on and that is very important.  It's also an important step because you have released yourself from his closet (prison).  You are not required to suffer alone.. and you've made a good step forward in that regard.  Even though perhaps you didn't get the response you were hoping for. 

One day at a time... 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

April 19, 2017 7:50 am  #4


Re: when friends don't understand or support...

Lisa, a big, big hug from me.

I know exactly what you going through. First you are completely alone in your discovery and when you finally open up, nobody can understand what you going through.   They will never be able to fully grasp, but in a short while they will support you.  Keep talking to them.  Telling your story not only brings a clearer understanding, but also healing.  I talked to a psychologist, a sexologist, close friends and finally my family members.  I came here every day to read the posts here.  And only now I begin to feel better.

The confession:  Only a miracle will make that happen.  Sometimes snooping is our only way, but even that only brings pain, suffering and confusion.  And their cover up stories range from amazing to ridiculous jokes.  I found gay porn on my husbands internet history and he said he wanted to see if he is big enough to satisfy me..   My response to him was "bullshit!  Please leave.".  You have to think about the years you've been living with this man and calmly evaluate his accusations.  Be kind on yourself;  nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes along the way.  I doubt you were a bad wife to him. If you were, this would not have hurt you.  It is because you love and care about him that you still give him the benefit of the doubt.  

Finances:  it is scary, I know.  I work and rework my budget every day.  Try to plan for every scenario.  Make sure me and the kids will be okay.  I wish you the best of luck in your business venture and hope that you will find a way out.

E-hug
Mrs Lonely

 

April 20, 2017 3:33 pm  #5


Re: when friends don't understand or support...

So I'm finding that my two guy friends don't believe me that my husband is gay.  They say maybe bi.  Why is that?  Why would a bi man reject his wife for years?  Either way it's unacceptable.

     Thread Starter
 

April 21, 2017 3:30 am  #6


Re: when friends don't understand or support...

Lisa
I could have written the 2nd paragraph myself... I know exactly how you're feeling!

I saw a therapist for the first time last week. She said something that helped me a little bit.  She said, "don't minimize the work you're doing.  With all of the dynamics included, every step you take in processing this is huge.". I think you, Lisa, are making huge steps.  By simply realizing the gaslighting that has and does happen, you are far beyond where you've been.  Knowledge is power... You are empowering yourself through making yourself aware of what's going on.  Reaching out to friends is another huge step that should help you on your journey.  I am envious of how far along you are!

Hugs!!

 

April 21, 2017 1:40 pm  #7


Re: when friends don't understand or support...

So it's like this isn't it. We lose our right to a loving marriage and family and then we also lose our financial security to their fakery as well. My GIDX was completely allergic to work. He worked for two years out of our 12 year marriage and didn't make enough for us to live on. My only saving grace was that I took on a business to support the family and was in control of my own finances by the end of the marriage. it took six long years to build it up to the point where divorce was possible without losing everything. He tried several times to sabotage the business as he could sense that it would lead to my liberation, but he couldn't manipulate me financially. We did mediation. The mediators were on his side ( professional, not! ) as he had persuaded them that he could have the house and I could have the business, and he was being generous. I turned up at my meeting with five bank files with all the financial details . I took them through the intricacy of the assets and loans. The shock on their faces when they realised they had been strung a line was almost worth everything. I finally had their ears. Anyway if I carry on in that vein you will be reading this til next week!
I have repeatedly told my children that they have to make sure they are independent financially so that they are never trapped into a relationship by money. They roll their eyes at me, but I still repeat it. Hopefully it will sink in sometime...

 

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