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March 10, 2017 11:29 am  #1


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Help!  I need encouragement!  I haven't been on site in almost a year and now something happened that set me back.  Gay Ex had issues with gay porn; hid it from me for 12 years, finally stepped out with a gay man he met in a hotel on Craig's list. He called it a bucket list.  Now a year after our divorce (he wanted to stay married denied he was gay and it was just an a experience he wanted to try)  He thought that I was going to forgive him and work on our marriage but I just couldn't grasp this kind of He shows many signs of being gay but after three years of counseling and removing the computer from his home, he is now dating a woman.  He said he is "in love" and he plans to marry her.   I am devastated.  I divorced the man that I adored and still am in love with because I could not accept this type of betrayal and now he is going to marry a woman!  If it was a woman in the first place I would have fought for my marriage of 26 years.  Now he tells me how much more they have in common than we ever did and that we could never get back together because She doesn't see him as a fag and I do.  Has he truly reformed?  He took ALL temptation away and has not been on any porn sites since. He never admitted he was gay. Does a one time deal still make him gay? 

 

March 10, 2017 11:55 am  #2


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To add, I was the only woman he had ever been with or even kissed.  He was 26. He also as a young man would view gay magazines.  Now has taken all internet out of his house.  He wants to live a straight life.  I asked him if he would ever "do" it again after it happened and he could not answer me.  He later said that it was because his sin was still fresh and later said that he absolutely would never do it again. He is having normal sex with his new girlfriend.  I wonder if I should have stayed and tried.  He is happy and I have chosen to be alone as I am still healing from this horror.

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March 10, 2017 12:41 pm  #3


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Hi Linda, I too am newly divorced and have the same fear that my ex would suddenly transform into an honest faithful man, get with a woman, marry her, and live a fabulous life. That fear he actually instilled in me as sort of a threat when i filed. Honestly it also filled me with anxiety and fear that I would miss out on all his fabuluousness. Why not give him another chance, right? On the flip side I thought would i really be able to live with him again knowing all the lies he did (giving blowjobs in public restrooms, having sex with other GID married men). Aside from the emotional abuse that gave me, the reality that he exposed me to STDs helped me stay strong in my decision to give up on our marriage. Our exes are gay Linda, they would always long for men. He just found another woman he could abuse. It helped me to go on this site and learn from other survivors. You could also go to www.chumplady.com to read about other people's experiences about cheating and the crazy making emotional cycles that we go through. I too struggle with the what ifs but could never forget what i've been through and swore i would never let anybody do that to me again. 

 

March 10, 2017 12:49 pm  #4


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Linda,
I know it must hurt.  We loved them...These spouses of ours will never know how strongly and fiercely we loved them down to our core.

But..

God forbid he want you back and you go back.  Then he goes out with a guy buddy  or perhaps a woman to go shopping.  Are they shopping or is it a date?   And why should you have to stress over which it is?
No he is not reformed and deep in your bones you it. 

We're only suppose to go through this pain once.    I don't think you want to go back and be hurt again.
Wish him well and move on.

Does it suck we were discarded.. yeah.    Does it suck we're alone and they have a lover ...    sometimes.
But I urge you to count your blessings... whoever he is with has to deal with his demons now...not your problem.   You do not want someone that you cannot trust.    You want someone who's vows and promises mean something.    TGT and now not G  is just more crap you need not worry about now.



 


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

March 10, 2017 1:15 pm  #5


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March 10, 2017 1:44 pm  #6


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Linda, 

Your ex is wired to be attracted to men.  He can't help his attraction.  He can try not to engage in homosexuality, but he will never truly change his internal attraction. 

Would you want to live a life of fear always wondering when he will cave to his desires?  Do you want to be a "beard"?  
The curse that so many of the women on this forum are dealt is that their ex will not admit to being gay.  So you always have that nagging thought in the back of your head.  I wish you and all these other wonderful women could find peace in the knowledge that you can't fix gay.  They might be able to hide it a few more years, but it will come back to bite everyone involved.  

Linda, consider what your relationship would be like right now if you were with him.  Would you be able to live without worry that he would cheat on you again?  Would you be able to let him have a computer and phone without worrying about what content he's viewing?  If he stayed out late with a friend would you wonder what he was really doing? 

There are so many amazing straight men in the world..  you will meet one and you will find out what an awesome relationship you can have with a str8 man that you can trust.   Let the past go..  Feel pity for him and his new beard..  but don't waste any more stress wondering or wishing you were back with him.   Time to move on my friend. 
 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

March 10, 2017 2:00 pm  #7


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Hi Linda.  Let me start my post with (a very loving) OH hell no! 

Step back and thank your lucky stars he's not with you anymore.  He's gay.  He's had gay sex.  He has lied.  He has met a stranger from Craig's list in a hotel.  And now he has found a new cover person.  I wonder...does this new person find it odd that he doesn't allow himself to have technology in the home?  Does she find it odd that he's only straight if the temptations of gay things on the computer aren't around?  Does she even know the issues he has with gay porn or that he has been with a man (of course she doesn't).

I'm sure everyone here gets tired of reading my same old story but if my awful outcome with a gay in denial man can help one person then I will repeat it until the day I die.  I ended up with herpes.  I find that very odd for someone whose ex "never cheated".  Wrong, I just never caught him.  But I sure did catch something else.  Unless you're prepared to jump back into a life of lies and STDs, stay where you are.  What you're seeing is a complete farce.  Go no contact immediately.  The only reason you know that "they have so much in common" is that he's TELLING you.  And how do you know they have "normal" sex??  Why is he telling you that?  As an old ex boyfriend once told me about his nimrod brother: believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. 

Please - take this as your official encouragement.  Give thanks that you got away.  I forgave and forgot time after time and all it got me was four extra years of crap and lies. Mine is still dating women and still pretending that he doesn't watch gay porn or have a stash of dildos.  I didn't go no contact because I know there is no way he can suck me back in.  Although there are definitely times when I feel nostalgic or I wish I had my old house back (i.e. the "things" and not him), I know that for me, having a little contact is ok because the thought of him grosses me out and there is zero chance I'll go back.  Until you get to that point, you have to remain no contact.  Later, if it ever all becomes water under the bridge, then and only then can you consider whether or not you ever want him in your life again as an acquaintance. 

Hang in there.  Read read read on this forum until you understand how horrible his lies are!  You have proof, you don't need more wasted time and an STD!  Trust me. 

 

March 10, 2017 2:45 pm  #8


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Hi Linda, my soon to be GIDX is dating another woman. He married his first wife knowing he was gay, 18 years later married me knowing he was gay. We were married 30 years. He is now working on his third "beard". Don't feel you have made a mistake in your thinking... He is GAY. He is now 72 years old and still abusing women. They have no moral compass!

 

March 10, 2017 3:06 pm  #9


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Thank you all!! It is amazing how we can begin to justify in our minds that maybe it wasn't as bad at it seems and maybe he really isn't gay, just doing gay things.  As I look back, this is what I saw: going to department stores and heading straight to the men's underwear section (I realized later that though he loved his underwear (washed them by hand in the sink) he wanted to look at the hot guys on the packages! wearing a pair of my underwear outside while laying in the sun because it didn't give him "tan" lines; constantly criticizing gays (calling them fudge packers and other derogatory  names) but after confession of his gay habits I did not hear one bad comment come out of his mouth about gays for over two years and it was the last thing he texted me (she doesn't see me as a fag and you do). He works out, wears speedos which looks so so so gay on him!  His swimwear got shorter and shorter throughout the years and now at 56 years old wears tight speedos while he is doing his paddleboard workout on the lake where we live.  He is being laughed at.  He thinks he looks good!  he is tall and very very thin with long skinny legs.  He also began wearing short shorts while he does his daily walk with no shirt on!  We live in a neighborhood where we are all out and about during the summer being in a lake community. His mother made a comment to me after we were married saying: "Wow this is a relief!  We all thought he was gay"!!  So here I am 26 years later, almost 60 years old, and he is dating a 48 year old and said after only a couple of meetings that they both feel strongly for each other and marriage is in their near future.  My stomach feels sick.  I feel like I should change my name back to my maiden name as there will be a new woman in the family taking the same name!  I feel so sad but know there is nothing to do but to move forward. UGH this is truly worse than death.  Truly.

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March 10, 2017 3:14 pm  #10


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How can they have good sex with women? Do they fantasize about men while making love (or having sex) with a woman? Gay Ex could no longer perform toward the end because his mind was filled with images of men.  

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