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I (39m) and my wife (40f) have been married for 17 years next month. We have one 15yo son and have what many would consider a normal, good marriage. We both have good jobs, our son is a great kid and we are active romantically and communicate really well.
Around 2020, my wife, while drunk, came out to me as a lesbian. She assured me that she did not want to end our marriage and that she only wanted to explore this side of herself but do so in a way that didnt hurt our relationship. She was accepting and understanding of my feelings and while I definitely struggled, she was kind and communicated really well through it all. That same year, she developed a small crush on a semi-acquaintance and she expressed that she did want to explore the possibility of opening our relationship so that she could have a sexual encounter with that woman to experience it. After communicating fully, I was on board but after a few attempts at flirting/etc - nothing materialized and the topic wasnt really discussed.
In those 3-4 years, our marriage remained strong, we had regular sex and were very affectionate and supportive. We just never revisited the situation - while understanding her sexuality was what it was.
Flash forward to this year - My wife and I regularly socialize at a local LGBTQ bar and many of our friends are from the community. My wife has mentioned previously that she finds one of the lesbian bartenders attractive and expressed a renewed interest in exploring her sexuality with this person. 1 week ago, my wife was at the bar without me and end up connecting with the bartender and they began text messaging frequently. My wife was very up front about it with me and we have had several conversations about what she would like to explore, what this person thinks, my feelings, etc. As we have continued to have those conversations, I have been supportive and tried to balance my fear of loosing my wife and my wanting for her attention with the idea that I am doing the right thing to support her in discovering this area of her life. She continues to reassure me that she does not want to end our marriage and that it is "not that serious".
But now I am spiraling because last four days have been a whirlwind. My wife's communications with the bartender have been moving very quickly and their flirty nature has developed into a physical one with playful touching in public and as of last night, a sexual encounter (not full sex).
She continues to say she doesnt want to leave me and end our relationship but that as of this morning, she "could" see herself in a relationship with this person and is scared that she "could" see herself falling in love with them.
My question is this:
Is It fair to ask her if there is anything we can do as a couple to NOT go down the road where my wife opens herself up to the possibility of a relationship or falling in love with this other person?
Im willing to put in the effort to help her understand her sexual desires. I also recognize that my wife isn't just trying to have sex with a random person but also I want to do whatever I can to limit an emotional bond to develop that would end my marriage.
Will loving and supporting my wife's needs here end up pushing her away from me and causing me to lose her?
Please any help/advice folks can give me would be so appreciated. Im struggling so bad and just want my amazing wife back.
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Hi Hawksguy, I'm so sorry you must be hurting so much right now. Do be assured the time will come when you feel good again.
I know you want your amazing wife back but I think you have to take some deep breaths among the shock waves and start to ask a few questions - not to her but in yourself - time to take your arm and put it round your own shoulders and think things through a bit for yourself rather than her. If, for instance, she wanted to explore her feelings for another man by having sex with him, what would your response be - instinct for monogamy? I know I've got one, sounds like you do too. I think it's just the way many of us are wired. I don't think you can stop your wife from falling in love with another woman - she is even saying she is a lesbian. Maybe you have to consider that the wife you believed you were married to was more like an image presented and less the real person inside.
The big piece of advice I have is to find those people, family and friends, that you can talk about it with - it just helps a lot.
wishing you all the best, Lily
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Hi Lily. Thank you so much for your kind words. I'll admit that they were really hard to read and I'm definitely struggling to face the questions you posed.
I definitely have an instinct for monogamy and probably sounds selfish but would really prefer that this situation be a "one and done" encounter but Im obviously not in control of that.
That said, I do want to continue to be as open and honest with my wife as she has been with me. I think that no matter what the outcome of this is, our mutual respect for each other will help us. Me getting answers to questions like:
1. If there is anything that can be done to not open the door to a potential relationship & instead keep this as a single sexual encounter/if based on the how she is feeling today/right now - if that is still what she wants out of this and if the bartender knows the answer to that question and/or consents to that being the plan.
2. If the desire for a relationship becomes too strong to handle, what is our course of action?
3. Will loving and supporting her in this lead to me losing her?
4. BIG ONE (again based on how she is feeling after this acceleration over the last couple days, does she think there is a world where she is willing to sacrifice our marriage for a relationship with the bartender?
Im scared of the answers but know that if we are going to come out of this effort stronger and better as a couple (which I still believe in my heart of hearts is what both of us want), I have to face them.
Lastly, thank you for your advice. I am seeking support (obviously here) but also through therapy and with friends and family.
lily wrote:
Hi Hawksguy, I'm so sorry you must be hurting so much right now. Do be assured the time will come when you feel good again.
I know you want your amazing wife back but I think you have to take some deep breaths among the shock waves and start to ask a few questions - not to her but in yourself - time to take your arm and put it round your own shoulders and think things through a bit for yourself rather than her. If, for instance, she wanted to explore her feelings for another man by having sex with him, what would your response be - instinct for monogamy? I know I've got one, sounds like you do too. I think it's just the way many of us are wired. I don't think you can stop your wife from falling in love with another woman - she is even saying she is a lesbian. Maybe you have to consider that the wife you believed you were married to was more like an image presented and less the real person inside.
The big piece of advice I have is to find those people, family and friends, that you can talk about it with - it just helps a lot.
wishing you all the best, Lily
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Hey, welcome, but sorry you are here. I read through your questions, without going into great detail, one thing stuck out for me: The answer to those questions have nothing to do with what you can control. You can only control yourself and your actions, nothing else. Its good to be supportive, but damaging to be a doormat. She has been honest with you and that is great, be honest with her. Your mental health is shaken as a result of worrying about all of the potential outcomes. You must decide for yourself, what YOU want in your life, in a partner.
Not to be harsh, but the life you had is already ended. You'll move forward together with a new life/reality, or go your separate ways. Clinging to what you had before isn't healthy for you my friend. Take all the time you need, its a lot to process. Come back often, talk to friend, get therapy for YOU, NOT couples therapy. She seems to know what she wants, you need to determine that answer for yourself.
Best of luck my friend.
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Hi Hawksguy,
So true, what Lily and Blackie have said. There's no crystal ball for how she's going to feel in the future - she can't know, and there's nothing you can do or not do. The early days of this experience feels like there's no solid footing, but as you manage to breathe through the first couple of weeks, it's time to look within and think about what is and is not ok for you within your marriage.
It is a big question that you've posed, "does she think there is a world where she is willing to sacrifice our marriage for a relationship with the bartender?" Plenty of us live in a world where our spouses sacrificed our marriage & family & future for some young hot thing.
Please consider a re-framing of this question. There are definitely sacrifices here - after she fully explores her lesbian sexuality, will she make the sacrifice to remain in a mixed orientation marriage? And if she does, and she can't/doesn't want to close that part of herself off again, will you sacrifice monogamy so you can remain married?
There are people who do remain married after their spouse comes out - they post over on the MOM board part of this forum. That might be interesting reading for you, to see what that type of marriage is like, and whether you see yourself there.
This hurts like hell, and it is very difficult to adjust your new reality.
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Being monogamous is a real thing, it goes back to the mists of time and comes complete with a set of emotions and consequences. You are hoping that she will limit the breaking of your heart to just one occasion - so she can 'explore' her sexual attraction towards women - but you are already reading the writing on the wall aren't you?
I don't think you can rely on her viewing your marriage as her primary relationship or in her being honest and open with you about her feelings or anything really - she is embarking on a romantic relationship with the bartender, that is going to be her primary focus isn't it? so sorry I know this all hurts like hell.
so when you ask will loving and supporting her in this lead to me losing her that's a romantic statement from you but all I can answer is she will do whatever she wants to, don't you think?
Glad to hear you are talking with your family and friends, I know you are hurting and feeling uncertain about the future but to me you sound good and functioning well. Put as much effort as you can in looking after yourself, all the best Lily
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1. What do you want in this relationship? Are you ok with your wife sleeping with another person?(Take gender out of the equation)
2. You have no control over this. Your course if action will be determined by the previous question.
3. Depends on what exactly you are supporting. I support my wife in expressing who she is and how she feels about things. I do not support her having sexual relations or a relationship outside of our marriage. You need to find out if she is still truly committed to monogamy. Again, what kind of relationship do YOU want.
4. No one can answer that, not even her. She's tied up in a hormonal cascade of limerence and it's more addicting than drugs. Unfortunately the only thing you can do is decide what YOU want and see how things shake out. If she is truly committed to being with you, she will value what you want just as much as you value what she wants.
There are several resources available here, and many different perspectives. My advice would be to not lose yourself in the process of her finding herself. Be the person you are and she will either accept that or reject that. I'm so sorry that you have to go through this.
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Hi Hawksguy
I will post a longer reply once I had a chance to read through the whole thread.
If you consider open relationship (or what it sounds like you're already in one - consensual, but not thoroughly thought through), URGENTLY read The Ethical Slut and Polysecure - preferably, together with your wife. You can't stop the feeling she is feeling but SHE can manage them and they will subside - could take anywhere from two weeks to two years though.
If you can get a therapist who can help you through it - it would be a great help!
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coming at it from a different angle - ie where the match or non match of sexuality is not the topic - imo when spouses start falling in love with other people there is often a subconscious instinct happening, to help them move on.
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Hawks guy,
TGT ..Its a horrible thing. Regardless of what she says or does you will always have that anxiety now. Is she meeting the bartender as 2 friends getting together or is it date? Are they having sex? Why do you have to wonder? What kind of loving spouse and best friend gives their partner that worry and anxiety?
I dont think we have any control over what they do. If you tell her to sever all contaxt with the friend would she do it? Would she then resent you for it?
Im old fashioned I guess in regards to marriage..
.promises were made, vows were taken. What part of what promised didn't these spouses understand.
Build your support system for yourself. Know that you may not get support from her now.
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