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Hello, I’m new to this forum so please excuse any rambling.
My partner of 16 years has just come out to me as a gay man and I’m absolutely devastated. Our relationship had always been loving and respectful, and over 16 years we have faced together some real life up and downs, but always had each other to care and look after each other. He’s my absolute world, and my life has been nothing but dedicated to him. Last year we purchased our first home together in a new town as we couldn’t afford to stay in our home town. We’re a liberal couple who’ve never been shy of various topics like sexuality and attraction and both always supported the LGBT community, but he never mentioned any sexual attraction to the opposite sex, but it wouldn’t have been a taboo subject - I’ve always loved that about us. Individual family dynamics has caused mental health challenges but we’ve been each others safe space. A few months ago he confided in me about some past trauma in his childhood and I recommended he reach out to his therapist from our hometown for support. From here his mental health really deteriorated and he’s questioned all decisions we’ve made as a couple from buying a house, to our whole relationship which has devastated me. Ive tried my best to hold him up and solely focused on his health and support. In the last couple of weeks he has said that he is bisexual, but a week later then said he’s actually gay as his therapist told him sexuality is black and white. This week he has said we are no longer in a relationship, he wants to be with guys and he’s always been attracted to men and he’s never been sexually attracted to me and we’ve just been friends.This is certainly not been my experience on the other side of the relationship but he’s being very closed and cold about opening up and now shuts me out but hasexpressed his urge to meet men and doesn’t understand why I don’t understand we’re over. Given how open we’ve been I asked if he is looking to have a conversation about a more flexible relationship but he’s not interested in this conversation. The man I love feels like he’s disappeared and I’m just bereft and my life has fallen apart. I have a couple of friends to confide in but to be honest my partner is my best friend and he’s always been the person I turn to. I don’t know how I’m going to cope and feel so desperate and alone. I found this forum online and praying someone will listen. Thank you for reading.
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RUN RUN RUN from this therapist!!!
He has clearly confused your husband and gave him an awful, unprofessional advice.
There will be people on this forum that will agree with this therapist's approach, but as someone with psych degree and having researched the topic thoroughly since my husband came out two years ago - this is blatantly wrong, unprofessional and borderline criminal.
Please read up on this and URGENTLY find a different therapist. Whatever your husband's sexuality really is, he shouldn't be working through such a sensitive and important journey with such a crook of a therapist. Sorry for strong wording, but it's a pain.
To start with, you simply can't decide within weeks whether you are gay or bi (or whatever). My bi-husband reports going through male/female cycles that can last a couple of months each. Straight after coming out, he thought "he was more gay", most of his fantasies were about guys. A few months later we had like a 4-5 months period where he would hardly notice any guys at all.
Start with Jo Kort's book "Is my husband straight, gay or bi?"
Also, regardless of what your husband's sexuality it (even if he is gay), it doesn't mean your relationship is over. There are mixed orientation couples that are happy and monogamous. It's not an easy journey, but if love, communication, honesty are there - it can be very rewarding.
Here some additional resources for you:
Facebook groups:
Podcasts:
MOR and More:
www.morandmore.org
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Just re-read your post and there could, of course, be a different scenario... your husband may have made the decision to leave on his own and a while ago - and is simply using the therapist as an excuse... In this case, I am really sorry, but there's little you can do. You will be ok and you will get through it. Keep reaching out to your own support network and you are always welcome to post here - most people here have gone through a divorce and will be able to help.
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Hi @Alex1984
Thanks a lot for your reply and sharing your experience.I’m really concerned about his therapist and this type of treatment he is receiving. The comment made about us just being friends and platonic was also suggested by this therapist, and my partner agrees with this assessment despite not having any conversation about this with me and is not (in my opinion) understanding that we are great friends with a beautiful bonus of a loving relationship. I don’t want to be naive about the situation but I’m also genuinely terrified that my partner is making such big decisions. Me trying to broach the subject about an any curiosity and discussion about a flexible relationship is met with frustration so I would genuinely appreciate some advice about how to speak about this another way, or how I proceed at the moment. Thanks also for the additional resource links, these are so insightful.
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Alex1984 wrote:
Just re-read your post and there could, of course, be a different scenario... your husband may have made the decision to leave on his own and a while ago - and is simply using the therapist as an excuse... In this case, I am really sorry, but there's little you can do. You will be ok and you will get through it. Keep reaching out to your own support network and you are always welcome to post here - most people here have gone through a divorce and will be able to help.
Hi Alex1984, thanks for your follow message too. I do agree he may be using the therapist as an excuse but unless he says I really won’t know. He’s been seeing the therapist for a couple of weeks but these big declarations have been the last 2 weeks. I want him to have a safe space to process but also I’m hurting too
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Hi Doodles,
You are most definitely not alone. Plenty of company here.
It is EXTRAORDINARILY PAINFUL when a spouse comes out. The deterioration in his mental health prior to him coming out could very likely be that the stress and anxiety of keeping his sexuality a secret is more than he can handle. Saw that prior to my GXH coming out.
As far as the question of whether he's bi or gay - only he knows for sure, and you might never get the truth out of him anyway. More relevant is that he says he's not attracted to you and wants to be with men. It's awful to be blindsided like this, and the devastation you're feeling is, unfortunately, how this experience feels.
"The man I love feels like he's disappeared" captures it well, too. When you've been attached to someone for years and years, and then you find out they're not at all straight, like they purported to be during your relationship, it's mind-bendingly confusing. Personally, I don't have any idea who I was really married to, and I don't know who that guy is now. It took many months of therapy for me to give up on needing to know what really happened to him.
This is an awful experience. The first couple of weeks after my GXH came out, I felt like I could barely breath. And while this seems impossible to imagine from where you are right now, it truly does get better with time.
Please give a read to the resources listed at the top of the forum. I also encourage you to get your own therapist - it's important to find someone who's a good fit, so you might have to meet with a few before you choose one.
Take care of yourself - this is a lot to handle, and you can do it.
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Men who come out as bisexual or gay are well-known for keeping it under wraps
for years.
And in those years you grow together and it will seems strong, stable and "look
our life is perfect".
Then it changes, and your life is suddenly challenged by something you're not
quite ready for.
He's ready for it because he's been building up to it for years. He sounds a bit selfish, self-absorbed
and further down the track you may be grateful he's giving you an 'out'.
If I was you.... Knowing what I know now after my own relationship battles....I would take a break, put
some distance between you and the situation/him and do some deep thinking, talk to trusted friends, a counselor.
No rash decisions. This is your life, not his.
Elle
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If your husband is open to it, he can set up a Zoom call with my husband. Alternatively, just say that you've been doing some reading and are concerned he's been getting the wrong/unprofessional advice and should probably look for a second opinion.
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freedmyself wrote:
Hi Doodles,
You are most definitely not alone. Plenty of company here.
It is EXTRAORDINARILY PAINFUL when a spouse comes out. The deterioration in his mental health prior to him coming out could very likely be that the stress and anxiety of keeping his sexuality a secret is more than he can handle. Saw that prior to my GXH coming out.
As far as the question of whether he's bi or gay - only he knows for sure, and you might never get the truth out of him anyway. More relevant is that he says he's not attracted to you and wants to be with men. It's awful to be blindsided like this, and the devastation you're feeling is, unfortunately, how this experience feels.
"The man I love feels like he's disappeared" captures it well, too. When you've been attached to someone for years and years, and then you find out they're not at all straight, like they purported to be during your relationship, it's mind-bendingly confusing. Personally, I don't have any idea who I was really married to, and I don't know who that guy is now. It took many months of therapy for me to give up on needing to know what really happened to him.
This is an awful experience. The first couple of weeks after my GXH came out, I felt like I could barely breath. And while this seems impossible to imagine from where you are right now, it truly does get better with time.
Please give a read to the resources listed at the top of the forum. I also encourage you to get your own therapist - it's important to find someone who's a good fit, so you might have to meet with a few before you choose one.
Take care of yourself - this is a lot to handle, and you can do it.
Hi freedmyself,
Thanks for your message. The feeling of not being able to breathe is exactly how I’m feeling. I keep wanting to have some hope for our relationship but I feel I’m losing and the life I knew has fallen apart. I’m alone in a new town so the real feeling of loneliness is here and being in the day to day presence of this man I love is killing me as all I want to do is throw my arms around him, I don’t know if that makes me look desperate. We are financially bound to this house and financially there is nothing that we can do at this moment. I feel really used and hurt and that my feelings are being ignored. How did you manage the first few weeks and months?
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Ellexoh_nz wrote:
Men who come out as bisexual or gay are well-known for keeping it under wraps
for years.
And in those years you grow together and it will seems strong, stable and "look
our life is perfect".
Then it changes, and your life is suddenly challenged by something you're not
quite ready for.
He's ready for it because he's been building up to it for years. He sounds a bit selfish, self-absorbed
and further down the track you may be grateful he's giving you an 'out'.
If I was you.... Knowing what I know now after my own relationship battles....I would take a break, put
some distance between you and the situation/him and do some deep thinking, talk to trusted friends, a counselor.
No rash decisions. This is your life, not his.
Elle
Hi Elle,
Thanks for your message and great advise. I’d never say our relationship looked perfect but I do understand that he may have been keeping this down for years, but the type of relationship we’ve had only ever encouraged open thinking so why he’s feel the need to keep this I really don’t know.
I do agree that he’s selfish and self absorbed, and has been fine to watch me please and look after him while I disappear into myself.
I do think some distance will help me do some thinking, I’m caught in a place of wanting to love and care for him whilst realising how much this man has cut me so deep and I don’t know how I move on. The no rash decisions is what I asked him to do too, but I’m being shut out by a man who feels like he wants to shut down and hurt people around him.