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June 19, 2025 9:58 pm  #31


Re: Bisexual Wife Not Willing To Commit To Continuing Our Marriage

Thanks Blackie.  I have to say it seems to me Tabor and Alex are offended by my posts - fine, don't read them - I find it totally unreasonable to take me to task for them.

Bisexuality is a modern term when you've lived for 70 years.  A general observation I have made a number of times is that knowledge is not always just increasing with every generation, it is also getting lost.

So yes, not only am I not in lockstep with todays thinking, I don't want to be.

I think my forebears had it right - sexual attraction is magnetic.  That has been my experience and observation.

One way or the other - like a switch.  Attraction or repulsion.

That we can and often do override it is not surprising when you put it in context - one switch in a whole field of genetic material, everything that goes into sexual behaviour let alone the rest of a person and their whole life.

I don't use the phrase 'bi now gay later'  to offer offence to people who identify as bisexuals, it just is a common story and it's helpful for the straight spouses who are assessing where they truly stand.



 

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June 19, 2025 10:04 pm  #32


Re: Bisexual Wife Not Willing To Commit To Continuing Our Marriage

Blackie563 wrote:

.....Btw, I agree, I do think bi people exist, but lets not pretend this is equivalent to the round earth, not even close my friend.....

LOL 'thumbs-up'

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June 20, 2025 3:43 am  #33


Re: Bisexual Wife Not Willing To Commit To Continuing Our Marriage

Here’s an objective truth for you: Claiming that bisexuality is not a legitimate orientation is offensive to bisexual people and those who care about them.

As a result I think it’s unreasonable to come to a public forum and suggest that bisexuality is some newfangled nonsense that forebears knew was BS and not expect to face scrutiny for those statements.

There are many people in this world who are capable of romantic and/or sexual attraction to both/all genders and they use terms like bisexual or pansexual to let others know what they know about their own sexual and relationship preferences.

In the context of this forum it is reasonable to warn each other about the not-uncommon pattern of a GID spouse identifying as bisexual first before realizing that they’re gay or wanting to claim bisexuality so they don’t have to admit to themselves and their soon to be ex that they’ve always been incapable of loving them or being attracted to them. That’s a painful thing to say and a painful thing to hear as many of us are aware.

While stating this warning we should be careful not to extrapolate to an untenable and offensive posture that bisexuality isn’t real. The bisexuality of a gay in denial person is not real but bisexuality overall is a very real expression of human sexual identity.

 

June 20, 2025 12:12 pm  #34


Re: Bisexual Wife Not Willing To Commit To Continuing Our Marriage

In terms of a resource that was primarily intended as a safe space for straight people to find answers and support for issues directly associated with trust, deception and some form of understanding as what and why their lives have been upended, context is key. 
It is not phobic or hateful to assert that being straight is predominantly normal in terms of human sexual orientation. It is a biological necessity after all, as to this date, no man or woman has succeeded in being impregnated or been impregnated by a same sex partner. This is due to the forces of evolutionary biology, and has nothing to do with social acceptance or a desire for widespread inclusivity. In the world of the straight partner, the revelation that their chosen partner is bisexual is not experienced and felt as being anything other than the information that the disclosing partner is gay or homosexual to a certain degree. The straight aspect of a bisexual identity is irrelevant to them. That part of the sexual identity was a given. 
What modern society has forgotten is that all of the traditions and generally accepted rules about partnering with someone were there to allow for the safe and secure raising of children within the confines of a straight relationship where both masculine and feminine traits and energies would work together to provide for a balanced upbringing. The revelation after the fact that your partner is gay on some level will be felt to be destabilising to a degree. it represents a risk that there could be abandonment of the existing relationship and potentially a family at some point for the allure or temptation of a same sex relationship. This risk is of course present in a heterosexual relationship, where there is a chance that our partner finds a better option than any of us. 
The truth is that over the years  a great many of those who have used this resource for guidance and support have found that the bisexual revelation was a stopover on the journey to gay town. In many cases, this was not a deliberate ploy, or a tactic employed by the future gay partner. It provides an amount of plausible deniability for both themselves and others. Do bisexual people exist? Of course they do. But, most will be aware of their bisexuality. If they are not aware of it and find that they are in a heterosexual relationship. I can understand why they would seek to hide it, particularly if the heterosexual relationship is important to them and has high value. Does it make a bisexual partner untrustworthy? No, untrustworthy is not synonymous with any orientation over another. What it is, and it cannot be denied, is a risk multiplier. For some people, that risk is higher than others.
It does seem that the user who started this thread and voiced their concerns about their partner identifying as bisexual has suffered ultimately at the hands of the bisexual lie in this instance. My thoughts are with him as he comes to terms with what has happened. We all view life through our own prism, shaped as often as not by our own experiences. We make the best of the situations we face, and all are as individual as we are. If David was to find a new partner who after a period of time divulged that she was bisexual, would he be judged for experiencing a traumatic response to that? Would he be wrong or homophobic? No, he would be a living breathing human being who deserves understanding and support. He certainly does not deserve to have his thread used as a crusade for one truth above another.
Remenber this: There are three sides to every story. Your’s, mine and the truth. The truth is always somewhere between the two of us. In terms of a straight partners experience, the truth is a blade that cuts the same. Whether dealt with a grimace or a loving smile. It cuts the same. The blade and it’s wound was the truth.
I am truly sorry to hear what has happened to you David. It is something that none of us were prepared to face in our lives. But this is your safe place, among those who know and understand your pain and confusion. To be in this situation where we did nothing wrong, or anything to invite this trauma is difficult to take. I would advise you to be highly cautious in your dealings with your wife. Frequently, they become heavily influenced by peer groups who have scant regard for the damage that befalls husbands in this situation. They can become very quickly hostile and vindictive while being encouraged to take all they can with them into their new life. Fortunately, the law is objective where their own views are highly subjective. You will find a lot of lived experience and advice here amongst the chatter and clamour for righteousness that serves no purpose other than selfish aggrandisement.


And now here is my secret, a very simple secret. It is only with the heart that one can see clearly that which is essential is invisible to the eye.
 

June 20, 2025 1:21 pm  #35


Re: Bisexual Wife Not Willing To Commit To Continuing Our Marriage

"..She told me that she wants a divorce. I also discovered that she's transferred most of our savings to a private account that I don't have access to..."


Maybe its not bisexuality so much as we married really immoral people.  Really hard to distinguish the differences when being actively hurt.

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"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

June 20, 2025 4:49 pm  #36


Re: Bisexual Wife Not Willing To Commit To Continuing Our Marriage

Tabor wrote:

Claiming that bisexuality is not a legitimate orientation is offensive to bisexual people and those who care about them.

Again the aggressive stance towards me.  I am in no way claiming bisexuality isn't real.  Nor am I demonising it.  Nor am I calling them out on the bi now gay later, I don't think they can change who they are any more than I can.  

I recognise it is not the norm for me to make this distinction but when you call it an orientation then I think that's a misuse of the word - a compass only points in one direction. 

I don't think that changes the validity of identifying as being bisexual.  I agree with what ordinary guy said re marital compatibility with a straight.  and also glad he pointed out this is David's thread we are hijacking.  But still I'd like you to reply to my question - what do you think - is bisexual compatible with straight in a marriage?

The thing that bothers me is the thought of that young straight woman who marries a bisexual knowing that he is but not realising how different it is.

 

 

June 22, 2025 3:27 pm  #37


Re: Bisexual Wife Not Willing To Commit To Continuing Our Marriage

Thanks Ordinary_guy, I appreciate the kind words. It's been a bit of a whirlwind the last two weeks. My wife talked to a lawyer instead of whoever and then moved half the money back in to our joint account and said I could take it and do what I want with it, so I've moved it to my own private account now. So that deescalated things. We had a long conversation that further deescalated things, so now it's at least not open hostilities, although it's been very tense around here.

She decided to drop the divorce bomb on me days before we were scheduled to take a family vacation. It's pretty clear that this was calculated to let me either come with and stay with other family or stay at home and let them go. I decided to come and be with my family, who gave me a ton of support that I really needed. My wife was also willing to let me have the kids for a few days of the vacation, so I got to spend Father's Day with them. We had to make up some stories to tell the kids to explain why we weren't all together, but at least we got through it. It felt like a peek in to my future life where we're separated and I won't feel stressed out all the time.

The relationship with my wife is still strained unfortunately. She'll barely look at me and when we talk it's an immediate argument over nothing. Meanwhile on the plane ride to and from she was on her phone texting constantly with a glowing smile on her face, which makes me feel completely miserable and paranoid. I need to get out of this house asap for my own mental health, but unfortunately I need to do it in a way that makes sure the kids' lives aren't too disrupted if possible. We need a plan to tell the kids and I honestly don't know how I'm going to hold back from blaming her for our family splitting up. I don't really want to hold back, but I don't want to make things worse in the future. I just hate that my life has been blown apart and I didn't do anything to deserve it except fall in love with the wrong person.

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