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Keep calm, keep talking to her, but don't trust a word she says. This is a very hostile (and calculated) move. It's not about feelings and discovery anymore. Get a lawyer if you haven't yet. Fast. You got this. Good luck ❤️
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sorry to hear that, David. Yes get to a lawyer is the necessary step. Do you know anyone who can recommend a good lawyer?
and yes, stay calm. Talk to your family if possible. My ex was more underhanded - he was siphoning money out of the joint account into an account he had opened for himself in secret.
I came to be glad when I was feeling angry - I used the energy of it to do the next task in front of me to divorce him. That worked very well.
Hugs. I know it's hell, and it's only going to get worse for a while but there is light at the end of the dark tunnel. I am hoping you have family that will support and aid you. wishing you all the best.
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I'm very lucky that I do have a great source for a lawyer and I've already scheduled a call with one that they recommended. I plan on talking to a few and making a decision on who to work with ASAP. I've also been reaching out to family and have gotten so much wonderful support from them. I feel very lucky about that.
It's definitely become clear that I can't trust my wife and I need to protect myself. She's acting paranoid and threatening. When she told me she wanted the divorce I said I wanted to have an amicable and easy one, but she's turned this hostile. Hopefully we can calm down for the sake of the kids.
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oh family support and lawyers - that's good to hear.
Maybe it is not so with your wife but one thing I have observed a lot is the lesbian wife using the children as a way to manipulate the father. I don't think you have any defence but being aware of what she is doing might help, particularly in terms of the divorce settlement.
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lily wrote:
My view is the term bisexuality is a modern addition to the term gay in denial.
Wow. Pretty harsh and thoroughly inaccurate for the majority of bi people out there. You do realize that bi or pan sexuality is a legitimate identity, right? Some people are truly attracted to both / all genders and the overwhelming majority of the people who identify as such are not in denial of anything at all…
(and I’m a person who had a gay ex of 23 years come out first as bi and then later as gay so I’m familiar with the kind of painful personal experience that could exacerbate such a callous and ignorant view of bi or pan sexuality).
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Tabor, this is an excerpt from a post on page one and here we are on page three?
Have you even read this topic in full?
You use the words harsh ignorant and callous to describe my views - that borders on being personally insulting.
I would like to think you have read all my posts on this topic before taking me to task for my views. Here is the post you have taken exception to -
"My view is the term bisexuality is a modern addition to the term gay in denial.
And certainly that is borne out by the number of people who are bisexual then when it comes to midlife crisis they start saying they are gay. There's even a saying - bi now gay later.
How genuine the person is is what you learn next."
My ex was staunchly gay in denial until finally I asked him if he might be bisexual and he admitted to that for two weeks then went back to straight out gay in denial when I didn't say oh that's okay then and shut up.
I kept on saying that's not the same as straight, you should have told me.
It was when he reverted back to insisting he was straight and intimating that if I thought different that would make me unsound of mind that I realised I had to get divorced as quickly as I could.
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Lily, yes I’ve read the entire thread and I’ve read many of your other posts in other threads even though there’s absolutely no need whatsoever for me to have read those before calling out a viewpoint for being questionable. Furthermore, it is not a personal attack to question your viewpoint.
You stated that “Bisexuality is A modern addition to gay in denial”.
Your personal experience of a gay ex saying they’re bi first before later identifying as gay doesn’t make your view any more or less rational, reasonable, or true. Yours is simply one life story as painful as it may be. My gay ex did the same as I said.
Bisexuality remains a legitimate identity and lived experience for people whether you acknowledge it or not. It’s actually the majority among LGBTQ with bisexuals being about 60%…
There are human beings who are capable of romantic and/or physical attraction to both/all genders. Not necessarily to the same degree and not necessarily at the same time but they’re real people with a sexuality every bit as valid as yours or any of our gay ex’s.
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I don't think we're going to get very far debating this. I think you will have to accept I still believe my view is valid and I don't think you are interested in questioning your own view, so all the best.
but I do have a question - do you think bisexuals make good partners for straights?
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Tabor, thank you, thank you for defending science and reason!!!
I'm married to a wonderful bi husband and bi-erasure is real, even though as you rightly note, bisexuals are the largest group in LGBTQ.
What can I say.. some people don't believe in round Earth; Lily doesn't believe in bisexuals.. there's really no point in arguing.
Sometimes personal experiences are so painful, they create biases that can cloud logic and reason.
I really appreciate your posts!
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These last several posts are odd to me. Everyone can have their opinion. Yes, there are facts, such as the world being round. When it comes to things such as sexuality, the source information is often....drum roll.....the people claiming they are telling the truth. It is unfortunate that anyone would dismiss something that absolutely no one here can disprove, again, because the source data is based on asking people questions and them telling the truth.
Regardless, does it matter? If one partner is in a committed relationship and the other is bi, Straight, trans, whatever, but does not disclose that information, or in many cases, flat out lies about it, they are not a good partner, period. Would your wonderful bi=husband get a pass for an affair with a man, because its a gay affair vs. cheating with a woman? I mean, thats your life, no judgement..but I would argue that's a horrible partner regardless of the reason.
Science, psychology is a science, but there is a reason is psychology is called a SOFT science. This term is used to distinguish it from "hard sciences" like physics and chemistry, which are seen as having more established, quantifiable, and predictable results. So please spare me the science trumps all, when your science is truly soft at best.
Btw, I agree, I do think bi people exist, but lets not pretend this is equivalent to the round earth, not even close my friend. Enjoy the evening.