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Hi Group,
My husband M(44) and I F(44) have been married for six years and together for nearly eight. I'm here because I'm wondering if my husband might be asexual or possibly gay. Here's a little more about where this worry is coming from
1. We have never had a passionate sex life. Our sex life has been pretty vanilla. I have a high libido and told him so when we were dating. He said we'd keep our sex life up. I've had past boyfriends and I know what passionate sex feels like, but I just assumed he was shy and that sex would get better as we got to know each other. But the more that I examine, I see that he really has to stay concentrated during sex, usually eyes closed and only one position. He has initiated though, and he's sweet. We cuddle after, and that has always been fine for me. Sometimes I feel a little sexual frustration, but for the most part, I've been okay with having a calm sex life becauseI also got a calm and responsible husband unlike some of the ex boyfriend potheads I dated who were the opposite of him.
2. Our sex life has dwindled a lot in the last few years. When we were first married, we had sex once a week. Then it turned to once a month. And now it's only happened twice in six months because I initiated. I know that if I ask for sex, he'll say yes, but I'm wondering why he isn't even asking.
3. I never see him checking me out, but I have seen him checking out another guy. I don't see him checking too many other women out but have seen him a few times. I did watch him the other week at the gym checking out another guy and being a little flirtatious. We had just had an argument and we were in a bad mood, but he immediately lit up around this other dad who came around with his little girl. It made me feel uneasy. In fact, I heard alarm bells and really started panicking after that, thinking that there really is something wrong with our intimacy or maybe something he isn't revealing.
4. When we first dated, I asked him if he was gay. He's a bit effeminate and because he didn't come on strong sexually, I wanted to know. Also, he has a lot of friends who are girls. Not a lot of guy friends. He's not religious. His family isn't religious, so I believed him when he said No.
5. He won't go to therapy with me. He's a smart guy (post doc from a top university) and thinks he's too smart to get help from a lowly masters degree holder lol
6. He doesn't keep his phone or laptop open around me ever. But, I have never asked about this. I just assume because he has work data on both, he doesn't want to leave it unlocked.
7. He does a few effeminate things- for example, he shaves his underarms. But I've never seen him wear women's clothes or anything like that,. But, He gets really worked up when people aren't 100% on board with the trans movement. I'm supportive of trans people, but I understand the older generation doesn't always understand it. My parents have made comments before about trans people- not disparaging but more like asking questions, and my husband has snapped at them in a way I thought was too harsh.
However, I really don't think he's cheating. He's home with me and the kids when he isn't at work. He's a dependable husband and really responsible. He's been my best friend. And he's a really good dad. I just feel he's distant and much less affection and pretty much zero sex. Hell, maybe he's straight and is attracted to another woman right now. But, I have the track record of Liza Manelli. My first husband was bisexual. With a serious ex boyfriend, I found gay dating sites on his laptop. I'm a great beard! So when I started to think about our intimacy, I felt like something was really wrong and have been spiralling ever since. I need to find a good therapist before I fall down another set of stairs because I 'm too in my head to watch what I'm doing. Already spoken with a few but none who really understand things from a straight spouse POV.
Any insight? I try to talk to him and says everything is fine. Everything does not feel fine.
Last edited by miriam80 (March 15, 2025 2:10 pm)
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I would just state....With all the taking over of women's spaces...in sports, in work places, gyms, prisons ffs, lesbian groups.... I don't see how *any woman can be ''okay" with trans.
Elle
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Elle - I think you've missed a couple of words - not ok with the transgender political agenda is one thing and I agree with you there. but to say you are not okay with trans? I assume you don't really mean that, it would be like saying you're not okay with big noses or whatever way a person is born.
Miriam, it sounds to me like your husband might be trans and not being honest about himself with you.
I thought my gay-in-denial ex and I were together all the time - we lived together, socialised together, and worked together - so I was surprised to discover he had a whole scene he was a part of without telling me. Now I know why he wanted to do the shopping.
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I agree with Lily about the trans topic. I am supportive of trans people having rights and being safe so long as their safety and rights don't infringe those of women (i.e. a trans female should never be put in a female prison where they can impregnante other women-- so absurd!!)
I don't know what's going on with husband. I have tried to open the conversation many times about our sex life and it just ends in him getting upset and insisting that we're too stressed and busy. And yes, I started sleeping in the kids room a few months ago when we moved, but that's because they're little and afraid of our new house. Our intimacy issues started way before this one. I just feel like I need a good book to help me understand this.
Also, Lily, my husband detests shopping lol. He's literally never away from us unless he is at his 9-5 job which I know is intense and really would be amazed if he found time for some type of life on the side. But, could he be looking at porn (gay or straight or trans or whatever) possibly. I guess I could ask him this next and see what he has to say.
Last edited by miriam80 (March 15, 2025 10:53 pm)
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To be fair, I think a lot of 'rights' transgender people want are outrageous - it's like they want to rework the world in their own image!
One of the things in your post that suggested to me he might be trans was that he was so keen on the trans movement, another was that it seemed to me that maybe it was at the back of your mind?
my ex did not want to cuddle, he found my femininity distasteful. But he still had an effeminate feel to him and he was competitive with me to be the better woman. But I think with trans it goes another level where they want to be the woman. well come to think of it, it felt like he wanted to be the woman in bed but I don't think he had any interest in women's clothing, oh yes he did, he dressed up as a fairy, complete with tiara and lipstick for a children's pantomime and from the photos it looks like he was having the time of his life.
Plenty of time to hook up during a whole work day I'd have thought, same with the shopping really, he had a whole coffee club thing going and then travel there and back.
Rather than ask him if he's looking at porn on his computer would it be possible to out your hand and ask to look at his computer?
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lily wrote:
Elle - I think you've missed a couple of words - not ok with the transgender political agenda is one thing and I agree with you there. but to say you are not okay with trans? I assume you don't really mean that, it would be like saying you're not okay with big noses or whatever way a person is born..
The NHS (England) has been urged to drop the word midwife. For inclusivity.
The NZ midwifery council would have removed the word mother and baby from it's scope if we hadn't objected.
These moves have been from the top of the trans movement.
I'm over being kind to men who want to remove women's rights.
Inclusivity is only okay if you're not taking away somebody else' rights.
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Elle, I agree - it worries me that they want to put women down so much. I heard a very derogatory term for a womb which I've actually managed to forget!
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lily wrote:
Elle, I agree - it worries me that they want to put women down so much. ...
What worries me is that SO MANY people all over the world can't, or don't want to ..see what's happening. To women, to girls. And boys.
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Elle, we're grandmother age now. We have lived long enough to see the future. When I was a young woman I knew there were gay people but I had no idea about the closet. How I thought gay people arrived idk. Of course I assumed they arrived the same way we all had but I never made the connection that just like brown haired people have a brown haired parent, it would be the same for gay people. Sexuality really wasn't talked about much, it was a socially taboo subject and the progressiveness of the sixties hadn't really made much inroads into the bulk of society.
So then came my adult life during the course of which the has closet loomed into view but largely obscured by the tumbling flood of gay people coming out of it.
It looks like there were just too many gay people wanting to live their natural lives. And that included not wanting to be deceptive.
I can't help but reach the conclusion that they aren't the majority of gay people at all though, and most gay people are still in the closet, deceptive because it is their nature, and continuing to reproduce with the opposite sex.
So here we are, the future has arrived. Transgender rules and straights are finally being trampled into the dust of history.
It's so hard to see what's in front of your face when you've fallen in love with a closeted gay person. The levels of pain are so high it is hard to understand what's happening to you. I have this memory, it's not a big one but it is seared into my memory - I am on the grass looking up at my ex who is standing on the verandah. In my early 30's and I am crying. I am looking up at him and asking him to talk to me and he turns away as if I am being distasteful.
Last edited by lily (March 17, 2025 4:20 pm)
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lily wrote:
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When I talked about people not aware of what is going on... I was meaning trans ideology, not gay/lesbian/bisexual people.
As a wise grandmother I now presume my darling grandson, who may have been gay if he had been allowed the time to discover it himself...was captured by the trans circus and convinced he was trans.
Apart from the spouses who cause their SO so much distress I don't care how any adult chooses to live their life. But when you have a harmful ideology permanently changing the bodies and futures of children ffs.... I wish people would wake the fuck up!
Climbs off my soapbox 😁
Elle