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June 21, 2024 10:32 pm  #1


Divorce Demands

Anyone else have their gay spouse put an NDA in their divorce settlement?

 

June 22, 2024 4:12 pm  #2


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Anon2222 wrote:

Anyone else have their gay spouse put an NDA in their divorce settlement?

No and I wouldn't agree to be silenced by one either

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KIA KAHA                       
 

June 22, 2024 4:29 pm  #3


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NDAs have come up in the past:

https://straightspouse.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=1305

Personally I wouldn't sign one.

What does your lawyer advise, and why?

ETA:
Anon,
   I don't remember all the details of your divorce.  I did some quick internet searching on Non Disclosure Agreementss in divorce, and although most are written for the divorcing spouse who wants to require one, I have gleaned some information that seems it might be valuable to you as you think over what to do.

  Is this a "non-disclosure" or a "non-disparagement" agreement?   "Non-disparagement" could expose you to further harassment and abuse, as what constitutes "disparagement" can differ.   

  If it's a non-disclosure agreement, is the financial settlement contingent on the NDA?  From what I read, an NDA isn't worth signing unless it comes with a financial premium--is he offering you more if you'll sign an NDA?

 I would ask your lawyer whether your stbx might use the NDA to harass or threaten you--how it could work against you--after the divorce.  You don't want to sign yourself into a situation in which he continues to assert a hold over you after the divorce is over.  From what you describe, he seems like a horrible and vindictive person.  

  

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June 22, 2024 4:43 pm  #4


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I've just reread my comment in that thread. Yeah.....fuck'em 

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KIA KAHA                       
 

June 24, 2024 12:21 am  #5


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Hi Anon2222,

At the beginning of my divorce negotiations my husband put non disparagement clause in, I asked my attorney for the legal definition and what exactly the terms were... my attorney said I could not say anything about any of my experience, ever, without losing my financial settlement.  

I did not sign it.  We are still negotiating over a year later, more mediation next month.  My legal team is expecting a  gag order request (and with all the things he's done, no wonder!).  They are very experienced in divorce and family cases, I'm hopeful I can come out halfway in tact financially or at least as good as I can without any NDA, non disparaging or gag clause.

I'm sorry you are facing this part, it's a terrible layer to an already horrific experience.  

It's a terrible situation that we each have to face and walk through alone in most ways, no way around it.  It's been a little comfort the last few years for me to check the forum and know I'm not the only one living in such a circumstance, to read your stories and mourn with you the lives and spouses we thought we had.  

As usual, I wish we could meet for a cup of coffee.  Happy to message if you want more specifics.  And I agree with Elle's sentiment above!

Godspeed...

 

June 24, 2024 7:11 pm  #6


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I agreed to a stipulation that I not reveal the actual reason for our divorce until after our son (youngest) was out of high school. I agreed because revelation may have made him the object of bullying. However before he graduated, the married governor of New Jersey publicly came out at a news conference to avoid being outed by an aide (male) he was having an affair with. His loyal young attractive political wife was at his side, and from the look on her face it was obvious she didn't know and was in shock. This was huge local news as I live right across the river from New Jersey. One of the local TV stations contacted Amity Buxton for straight spouse guests on a local Sunday morning news-talk program and she referred them to me and another area woman. We agreed to go on as long as we were backlit and our faces not shown. I figured "who watches TV at 8AM on a Sunday morning anyway". Well turns out my ex and ex-MIL were. EX-MIL even called the host of the show to yell at him. Ex threatened to hold me in violation of our agreement. I told her "do your worst, it's my story to tell". There were no repercussions and she dropped it. I'm guessing she was told there was not much she could do about it anyway. 

Edit to say: However it was me paying the alimony and support. If it was the other way around there could have been something she could have done.

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June 26, 2024 1:08 pm  #7


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I would not sign anything with an NDA provision.  Your soon to be ex lost the right to confidentiality about sexual orientation by dragging you into the closet.  

An NDA that prevents you from speaking with friends, family, and others about your experience is unethical and psychologically unhealthy and damaging to you.  And you don't want to be living on pins and needles for the rest of your life worrying about tripping over the nondisclosure provisions in an NDA.  They controlled our lives enough, and they don't get to control our lives post-divorce.  No way.

 

 

June 26, 2024 2:07 pm  #8


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Talk to us 2222...what are you thinking, how are you feeling?

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KIA KAHA                       
 

June 26, 2024 5:17 pm  #9


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Its like they are gods  and think they can control what we can and can't say.   They forfeited all righr and privileges to thay..would not sign.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

June 26, 2024 7:24 pm  #10


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To be honest, I am just feeling tired more than anything. I had major surgery on Monday and I'm not bouncing back that well. 

I'm tired of the stress. I'm tired of being so broke that all I do is worry about money. I'm tired of dealing with whatever the next thing he's going to do to try to get out of signing anything. I just want it all over with.

I told my lawyer I'm not interested in signing the NDA and that I want it removed. After all the years of abuse, it just feels too controlling. I want to be free of him from my life, and this just means he still has that sliver of control and a foot in the door.

I tried asking my former spouse his rationale for it, and of course he's gone the emotionally abusive route of the silent treatment. He is just such an ass. 

And I am so very tired.

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