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September 26, 2023 1:07 pm  #1


My lesbian in denial story

I am a straight man whose wife has come out as bi.
We were married in 99 and have 3 adult children.
My wife had betrayed me, not with another person, 3 years ago in a huge way.
Because of this I asked her for a divorce. 
We ended up staying together and lived together for another year.
As part of our retirement plans she moved to another country as a good job came up to get us permanent residence and we have been living apart for parts of the year since.
This was 2 years ago. I go and live with her for 4 months of the year.
Last year I came back home and had a bad case of covid I caught on the plane.
I was missing her terribly and not dealing with being physically separated well.
I was seeing a therapist at that time.
I was extremely depressed and strange things started happening.  
This is when she decided to tell me she was bi. 
When she told me that she said" its every guys fantasy to have a 3 way with 2 girls".
I said it was not mine and she said "OHH thats to bad"
I asked her if she was wanting a 3 way and she said no she could never share me.
So I asked if she was wanting to be with a woman she said yes but on her own and that "no not right now" and that it might not happen until I died.
I am 53 she is 47.
So I then asked her if she was wanting to swing, again she answered "no not right now".
I argued with her that those answers are a yes and she said no that she was giving that answer because she did not want me to be shocked mad or upset if she changed her mind and so that I could not say she had said no before.
I became very, clinically, depressed and was suicidal.
I told her that I wanted to sell my business and move to be with her early and she said no it was not worth enough yet so that I could not.
She said she did not want me to be a burden on her finances and her retirement.
I ended up going back for a quick visit  out of desperation.
We have an open book policy so she knows how to look in my phone and computer and vice versa.
I checked her phones video history and i saw lots of lesbian porn and 3 way porn going back a long way.
She had a "friend" who ended up living with her for a few months.
I had noticed when I went for a visit that the 2 of them flirted back and forth alot.
This friend was with a guy so i did not think much of it till one of my kids after having visited commented that the 2 of them flirted really hard with each other.
I asked her if anything was going on with the 2 of them and my wifes answer was that "she's not my type".
While that "friend" was around it seemed that even though I was in serious mental duress i was on my own.
She had a 12 day stretch off and I had begged her to come back to see me as she has more opportunity to do that then I have to go there.
She told me no she was too busy.
When I asked her what she was busy with she told me she had clothes to wash and grass to cut and yard chores to do.
I asked if that was more important than coming to see me when I really needed the support and she said yes it was more important as it bugs her if those things need to be done. 
In the end she came to see me but spent most of her time going to see other people here than spending it with me.
I opted to do some pretty radical treatment, ketamine, to get myself in a better mindset.
That was working but second last treatment before I left to go to her for the winter was bad and set me back.
When I got there she seemed different.  
She was not very interested in sex.
Her "friend" had moved away and was not coming back, and hasn't.
My wife seemed to recloset herself. 
I did not attempt to deal with the issues when I was there with her.
I don't think I had the capacity to deal with them.
The day before I left to come back home she asked me for some help with her phone.
I was showing her that the issue was she had to many apps open and as I was doing that a few of n them were porn and all female stuff.
We had agreed that we would not look at any porn by ourselves while I was back but that was not what happened.
I asked her about it ands she said it was only once, but it was not.
I also asked her why she was not that interested in sex while I was home and she said that was not true.
So this year I have been slightly better on my own here without her, we do skype every day and always have.
She had some blow ups and was accusing me of going on dating websites which I had not.
She suspected that because we were not getting along very well and there was one day we did not skype.
After being apart for 6 months she came for a visit and again was accusing me of cheating on her because a water bottle with flowers on it was here, my eldest child had left it behind on her last visit.
Ever since she betrayed me I have not been able to confide in her about work stuff and then when she essentially shrugged me off when I was not in a good way mentally I have not been able to confide in her with personal stuff.

I feel that I am just her security blanket until she is ready to make the full and final leap to being with a woman.
I feel that i have no future with her and that it would wreck me to fully trust her again to only have her pull the rug out from under at sometime in the future by leaving to be with a woman and being able to justify it because of what she has already told me.

I need help.
S

Last edited by clueless70 (October 2, 2023 7:46 pm)

 

September 26, 2023 1:58 pm  #2


Re: My lesbian in denial story

Welcome to our Forum Clue (it feels wrong to call you Clueless because you seem to be self-aware about many things)
It does hurt to have this Mindfuck happen. Two people...and you think it will always be that way, then weird things happen, uneasy feelings of loss, and you really feel like you never get a truly honest and genuine answer to your questions. 
Each of us has our own journey. No 2 will be the same because every straightspouse is different but this Forum is full of people who are empathetic to your situation. 
I (f) stayed with my partner (m) of 38 years right til the end so can't imagine the stress of being separated by countries.

To me your wife sounds like she's in a stronger and more distant place (and I mean emotionally) so it might mean she has already disconnected from the 'couple' you were. But we're here to listen, there's a wealth of knowledge and commonsense. 

Elle


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September 26, 2023 2:17 pm  #3


Re: My lesbian in denial story

I feel like saying to her that she should go have that lesbian experience , if she already hasn't, to know if that is really who she is or if its just curiousity?
I have read alot of things that would lead me to believe that after this experience she would come out fully and then end our marriage releasing me.
I also think that last year she was trying to push me either over that cliff or to ask her for a divorce.
I forgot to mention that when she came back most recently there was no history on her phone anymore as she was using secret mode on her phone browser but not for everything.
When I asked her about this she said she was not good with phones and did not know she was using secret mode.
But the time stamp of the use on secret mode and on the regular part of the browser showed she was switching back and forth. 
Because of her use of Secret mode i did a browsing history search on her phone and found that she had gone to the play store and downloaded tindr about 2 months before I had asked her for a divorce back in 2020. 
Also forgot to mention when we reconciled back in 2020 she told me if we did not get back together she saw herself getting together with a woman.
That was a shock but when I asked her about it in 2022 she said she meant as a friend not romantically. 


 

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September 26, 2023 3:06 pm  #4


Re: My lesbian in denial story

My comments in red

clueless70 wrote:

I feel like saying to her that she should go have that lesbian experience ....that after this experience she would come out fully and then end our marriage releasing me. I'm glad I ended my r'ship with A before he could do it to me. I'm in a worse place now but hope this hell is only temporary
I also think that last year she was trying to push me either over that cliff or to ask her for a divorce. That may have been your intuition telling you that actually you need to walk away from her
 she was using secret mode on her phone browser but not for everything...she said she was not good with phones and did not know she was using secret mode. Yeah right lol sounds like bs to me
But the time stamp of the use on secret mode and on the regular part of the browser showed she was switching back and forth. Omg....been there seen the browser-switch thing. Didn't realise what it was!
Because of her use of Secret mode i did a browsing history search on her phone and found that she had gone to the play store and downloaded tindr about 2 months before I had asked her for a divorce back in 2020. 
Also forgot to mention when we reconciled back in 2020 she told me if we did not get back together she saw herself getting together with a woman.
That was a shock but when I asked her about it in 2022 she said she meant as a friend not romantically. 

 

It's horrible when we feel we have to snoop. I did it, and I ended up with a piece of paper with the phone number of a woman he was seeing (yes yes a woman, a 'soundingboard' he said for all his secrets and desires but in the end a woman who was okay with anal sex and who knows what else!).....anyway, I discovered her phone number so felt I had to keep it. Just in case (!!??!!) It stayed crumpled up in my backpack for years. I never used it, took it out and looked at it but never rang it. And when I finally realised that all the angst and worry, all the anger and tears, all the nervous tension I held in my stomach was only hurting me!!....that's when I took it out and threw it in the rubbish where it belonged all the time.

Until your mindset changes to seeing yourself as worth saving rather than your r'ship with a woman who wants more in it than just you....things won't change. 
This is a marathon not a sprint but (edited to say you're not clueless) you have enough clues to start the journey

E





 

Last edited by Ellexoh_nz (September 26, 2023 3:09 pm)


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