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June 6, 2023 7:57 am  #1


blindsided

My husband and I have been married for 29 years.  About 6 weeks ago he revealed that he is bisexual.   He told me because he expected that I would find out through someone who was blackmailing him.   He was trying to set up interactive gay porn on his phone and was hacked.   In total he gave the blackmailer and the private detective that he hired over $15,000.    During our conversation he told me that he was probably addicted to porn, was very interested in having anal sex performed on him, he would like to give and receive oral sex with a man and would love to have a threesome if I would be interested.   In addition, he admitted that if he hadn’t gotten caught because of the blackmailer, he would have tried to hook up with a man to explore this part of his sexuality.   Hearing all of this totally blindsided me.

This led to my asking him about his past experiences.   He said that he went to a few gay bars in college but never did anything.   However, about 10 years ago (when our son was about 9 years old) he found someone on Craig’s list under MOM sex.  He went to the man’s house and they rubbed their dicks together & jerked each other off.   I wanted to know all the details.   The guy was a flight attendant.   They were standing up and lying on the bed. They both came and then finished their beers and then my husband left.   I asked him whether he felt any shame because he cheated on me.   I don’t think that he felt any remorse at all.    He said that he was curious about it and never did it again.    

However, he now says that this whole recent experience with the blackmailer and the fact that he hurt me so much was a wake-up call. He wants to work on our marriage and will not try to seek out sex with a man.  He said that we will stop watching so much porn.  He does not want to blow up our lives or traumatize our son (now 19 living at home & attending college).   We discussed that divorce would hurt us both financially. 

I don’t want to be alone, but I feel angry that he has lied, cheated and deceived me.   It will be hard to trust him again.    We’re trying to communicate more and have sex more often.   He said that I never initiated sex in the past and so I’m doing so now and trying to be open to using “toys”.  I’ve set boundaries and will not participate in a threesome or let him cum on my face (I don’t understand why that would be a turn on for him and I would find it degrading).   I think that he would like a threesome because it would give him the opportunity to explore his sexuality with me involved as well.  One of the hardest things to hear was that he would be turned on watching another man have sex with me and then having sex with the guy as well.  He said that we would like to watch me being pleasured or something.   It makes me sick just remembering the conversation.     The fact that he would like to do this upsets me.  I sometimes think that he has totally lost his mind.

He now is asking me to put this all behind us.   He says that he doesn’t have to pursue these things because I don’t want to, but knowing that he would LIKE to do so is hard to accept.   I’ve asked him to let me know if he ever plans to seek out sex with a man before he does it so that we can part as friends.   He assures me that he will let me know but that “it’s not going to happen”.  He says that he wants to stay married and be faithful to me.  Will I ever be able to accept this new reality and have a good future with this person?   
 
 

Last edited by M-Kate (June 6, 2023 11:09 am)

 

June 6, 2023 8:15 am  #2


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Wow, that is a lot to deal with. My gay ex boyfriend never told me the truth when I confronted him. I know how shocked and hurt that you must be. I agree with you about not having sex with him and another man. I won't tell you to leave because I don't know your situation and I would never, ever, tell another member what to do. I was helped by a therpist. Post as much as you need to. We understand.

 

June 6, 2023 11:12 am  #3


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Thank you.  Yes, I found a therapist and it helps to talk with her.  I think that this is similar to going through stages of grief.   Sometimes I feel so angry and other times I just feel so sad.  

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June 6, 2023 3:11 pm  #4


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Sorry you’ve found yourself here MKate. I have also been married for a long time. I stumbled upon his bisexual/gay secret life by accident about 8 years ago on our 36th wedding anniversary. He accidentally left his phone open to the Grindr app. I didn’t even know what that was… had to google. I was so blindsided!! Once confronted, he confessed to having had several gay hookups while on business trips and couples therapy ensued. He claimed to be glad he was caught and off of the gay merry go round..he was a model husband for a time. After the renewed honeymoon period, I became hyper vigilant of his doings and discovered there was way more than he had admitted. In retrospect, there were red flags that I now know showed he isn’t entirely straight. The truth or what I have gotten out of him has come to light in bits and pieces. I’m sure I don’t know all of it and probably never will. He claims to be bisexual .. I believe him but I think he leans closer to desiring men more than women.  From what I he has told me and what I’ve pieced together, I’d guess he has a 70/30 desire to for men over women?? We still have sex thanks to cialis, a deep love for each other and a strong desire from both of us to stay together. He has also been diagnosed with a porn addiction and feelings of inadequacy for having what he thinks is a small
penis. Personally, I think the porn addiction is just an excuse for being selfish/self indulgent combined with a strong same sex attraction. We have been in therapy together and separately. He is currently seeing a therapist for that “porn addiction”. I have been playing gay whack-a-mole since discovery. Every 1-2 years, I get suspicious that he has been on a gay hook-up/chat site and go digging. My hunch has never been wrong and I’ve probably missed a lot. He claims it is just a desire to have a larger dick and to see what he wishes were his equipment. He says he hasn’t been physical with anyone since the big discovery 8 years ago and for my sanity, I choose to believe him. If I were younger, I would probably divorce him and live without the constant cloud of not knowing his whole truth. But he is a great guy, a wonderful provider, a decent father to our three grown sons, a good grandfather to our two grandsons and we have a rich  life as a couple with lots of friends and travel; so I stay. I suspect if he could do it all over again, he’d do it differently too. He is (and I am too) a victim of the time 44 years ago when men were expected to marry one woman, have kids and live happily ever after with her. ~ I suggest you read as much on these boards as you think may apply to you. I would urge you to specifically read under the topic “is he/she gay”  the entire thread of “a gay ex husband answers your questions”. It is a lot to read but it was very insightful!! The author Ryan King aka Sean01 speaks honestly and openly and I saw a lot of patterns that he spoke of in my husband. He also has a few podcasts that are very worthwhile.

I hope my ramblings were clear enough…just trying to show you that you are not alone. Everyone’s situation is unique. Hang in there… try to eat, sleep and keep your mind busy until you feel able to make well thought out decisions about moving forward.

 

June 6, 2023 3:31 pm  #5


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Thank you so much for your insight.   I think that my husband is probably gay.  He told me that his fantasies are always about men (he later claimed that he didn't say that).   He is also a good provider.   We're close to retiring and separating would be hard financially.   I don't think that I'll ever truly trust him again.  I don't know whether I can "compartmentalize" and try to make the best of the situation. I really don't want to be alone. I need to accept this new reality regardless.  I feel like I'm going through stages of grief.   

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June 6, 2023 3:31 pm  #6


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M-Kate wrote:

....,...I don’t want to be alone, but I feel angry that he has lied, cheated and deceived me.   It will be hard to trust him again.    We’re trying to communicate more and have sex more often.   He said that I never initiated sex in the past and so I’m doing so now and trying to be open to using “toys”.  I’ve set boundaries and will not participate in a threesome or let him cum on my face (I don’t understand why that would be a turn on for him and I would find it degrading).   .....

Welcome to our Forum M-Kate
Can you see what your husband is doing? He is talking to you like he knows you better than you know yourself. And using sex, and his wants and needs, as the language to convince you that you are the one at fault. You may be trying but he's probably well-aware that you don't want this and doesn't have to try anything because you are doing it all, caught up in an emotional tug-of-war between how you think your marriage should be and how your husband really wants it to be. 

The man I have just this week left used to spin me round in knots, and because I loved him and thought I would be nothing without him ..I did, and let him do....things that I look back now and cringe at. 

M-Kate...you need to find the M-Kate inside, the strong one, the one that doesn't bend to this man's sexual will.

The anger and sadness go hand in our journey through this Mindfuck. But if you recognise and acknowledge them, and accept this happens to most of us it'll become easier to get through the emotions

Elle
 


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June 6, 2023 4:01 pm  #7


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Thank you Elle.    He says that we're just having fun & fooling around.   I even wore a strap on dildo and performed anal sex on him & he seemed to like it.   I think that I'm trying to give him the experiences that he wants with a man.  I need to determine what I'm willing to put up with and whether I can stay in this relationship.   I still can't believe that he wants to have sex with a man.  It is a total mindfuck.  I think that I'm in denial.  I think about it all constantly.  I haven't really accepted it.   He has apologized for hurting me, but he says that what he did was "forgivable" and that I need to get over it. 

Last edited by M-Kate (June 6, 2023 4:12 pm)

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June 6, 2023 4:19 pm  #8


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I think that the only way that we will be able to stay married is by being more open, honest and by having lots of sex - is that crazy?   Won't it help us move forward? 

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June 6, 2023 7:18 pm  #9


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M-Kate wrote:

Thank you Elle.    He says that we're just having fun & fooling around. .......  but he says that what he did was "forgivable" and that I need to get over it. 

Yeah that's what my partner & I were doing too.....just having fun, until it wasn't fun anymore and after a time there was a subtle shift in the dynamics of it and I started "not liking" any of it. 
I gave A. 3 years to see if things improved. They didn't, and it took me another 3 years to get all my ducks in a row to separate

E
 


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June 6, 2023 7:22 pm  #10


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M-Kate wrote:

I think that the only way that we will be able to stay married is by being more open, honest and by having lots of sex - is that crazy?   Won't it help us move forward? 

Yes. That is crazy. If your husband is anything like A. he'll be very skilled at separating what you have with him....and what he desires sexually with men. Having more sex won't decrease his wanting extra with men.

E
 


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