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November 22, 2016 11:56 pm  #1


Any Christian Believers on here?

I didn't get married until I was 35 because I was waiting for the right man.  And I'm glad I did!  Greg is the most amazing, beautiful, kind person I have ever known.  He is my best friend.  We were married four years ago, immediately pregnant; just after our second darling son was born, he came out to me as believing he was a woman stuck in a man's body and wasn't sure he could survive in his masculine body any longer...

<Message curtailed -- more available upon request>
   
   It has been over a year since he came out and I already see the Holy Spirit working miracles in our family. However, I could really use some friends who understand the unique thoughts and emotions that come with being the spouse of someone who struggles with this affliction.
   I am *extremely* grateful to say there have been no lies or unfaithfulness, and he has communicated fairly well. I do believe he "compartmentalized" this as he said, so he sincerely didn't think to reveal this to me before marriage.  Since he has been honest and open with me, I have been spared the anger and betrayal associated with deception and cheating.  However, I have still felt grief (?! As if he died), loss, loneliness, fear, hopelessness, vast distance from my best friend, the feeling that my marriage was a sham, that I never knew this person, and this weird exhausting limbo feeling as we work through this.

Holla at a Sista, Yo.

Note: as I am nursing a baby and caring for a toddler, my responses may be short and delayed. I apologize ahead of time. 


"Then you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free." --Jesus

"So take a new grip with your tired hands and strengthen your weak knees."  --Paul
 

November 23, 2016 8:43 am  #2


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

I'm a Christian Believer Charity. 

I'm so sorry you have found yourself in this situation.  I've been struggling to understand God's plan for my life and why I find myself here as well.  I felt I did the right things leading up to marriage, spent much time in prayer asking if she was the right one for me and listening to try to hear God's affirmation of that.  Yet I now find myself on the doorstep of divorce and wonder if perhaps I had it all wrong 16 years ago.  Or maybe this is God's plan for my life and He will use my struggle for good in the end. 

I can't offer much support on the transgender issue since I'm not in that situation.  But I can offer you prayer and emotional support. 

Please remember that He is walking with you and he will not forsake you.  We are not promised a fair and perfect life here on earth, but we are promised a future with him and we can look forward to that. 

Blessings


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

November 23, 2016 11:51 am  #3


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

I'm still struggling to figure out Gods plan for me too.   I know he did not want me to stay in an abusive
marriage full of lies, rage, and deceit.    But my future in an empty slate now..  Only my kids and being there
for them now and in their future ground me to this earth.


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

November 23, 2016 12:15 pm  #4


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

CharityEmet
I'm not a Christian, but I'm in your situation, living with a husband who would also like to be a woman and a female, so I understand the "unique thoughts and emotions" that come from being married to a man living with this "affliction." There are a number threads by those with crossdressing/"transgendered" husbands, but  I have found a lot to think about in all the posts, whether they are specific to my situation or not, so I recommend that you read around.  

 

November 23, 2016 10:53 pm  #5


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

Thanks for the replies, Guys!  It buoys my heart to hear from flesh-and-blood people rather than just educating myself online.

LostDad,
   I read a couple of your posts and my heart just goes out to you!  :'(  It's not fair.   It's just not right and not fair.  I believe you *did* do things right leading up to the marriage.  All God asks for is a willing heart and a mustard-seed of Faith, and he does the rest.  It's a classic tactic of the Enemy to make us think we "married the wrong one".  Because that leads to an endless stream of more lies: I'm guilty for picking the wrong one, I'm guilty of the hurt it is causing our children, all these years were wasted when they could have been for good... etc.  The Enemy comes to kill, steal, and destroy.  He has already done enough, so don't let him beat you up, too.  You are too precious! Do not confuse pain in a fallen world as some indication that you did something wrong.  Each moment, each breath of your life -- with and without your wife -- has been extremely purposeful.  This. Is what our Faith is about.  Everyone's productive when things are going well -- are we going to fight still when we've been lopped off at the knees?  You are a powerful warrior, my Brother. I can see you're going to go through this refining fire like a Phoenix out of the ashes.

   OK, sorry.  I got on this forum to hear people relate to my feelings, not preach.  Note to self:  need to stop trying to solve other peoples' problems and take care of myself! ;)

   But seriously, it's totally unrelated, but you may be encouraged by reading "Tortured for Christ" by Richard Wurmbrand (short book -- you can get it for free).  He was chucked in the gulags for sharing Jesus' love, and somehow his Joy in the face of unspeakable torment emboldened me during a previous trial (this transgender silliness is just latest of like seven horrible attacks in my life -- I'm almost bored at this point), and encourages me today.

   Oh, and elsewhere you mentioned being a good marriage example to your kids.  Good for you guys!  That is something else I grieved.  Greg and I tried so hard to show what a real and good marriage is to our friends, our parents, everyone.  But then it felt like the marriage was a sham. But then I thought perhaps we could show them as two women of the Lord?  Then, I thought the marriage is over altogether, by definition.  All deceptions.  We'll continue to be a beautiful example of marriage, strengthened by this trial.  And you will too.  You showed your kids how to be man and a father of the Lord.  Your wife losing her battles doesn't mitigate any of that.  Incidentally, the Lord isn't done with you like He isn't done with her.  Please hear I'm NOT advocating holding out for her.  I'm just saying this is not an end but a beginning of a new, deeper relationship with the Lord for you.

    Also, I don't know if you're part of a DivorceCare group, but a lot of churches have them these days -- you might look for one?

Thank you, yes, the Lord is indeed walking with me on this one.  I can't feel Him, but I know He's there...and He's been showing me such new power I have!  I'm just feeling so lonely for another human (in my physical proximity) that "gets" this particular struggle. So here I am...

   Sorry for the unfocused structure -- so much to say, so many directions to go in...


"Then you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free." --Jesus

"So take a new grip with your tired hands and strengthen your weak knees."  --Paul
     Thread Starter
 

November 24, 2016 5:49 am  #6


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

Rob,

   I don't know your story, but I imagine it's some horrible cycle of soul-crushing infidelities, homosexuality, tearful confusion, and broken promises... and like you said:  lies, rage, and deceit. None of which you asked for or deserved. I've reviewed what Jesus said about divorce as I'm sure you did and Porneos is the word he uses as the big reason for divorce.  Generally people translate that to adultery, but it's a much broader term which I'm comfortable transgender and homosexuality fall into.  So, yeah, God probably doesn't want you in that marriage. :/

   But thank God for our kids! Like I was saying to LostDad, we'll get through this and be stronger for it.  Transgender is the latest of a line of attacks, and I've dealt with a debilitating illness for 16 years -- most of my adult life.  But I'm only now learning that we can speak things into (or out of) existence, like God did with the Void in the beginning.  So, I look at the destruction around me and instead am deciding to call it life and hope and order.  It's taking time to manifest, but it is very steadily happening.  That's what Jesus was talking about with the moving the mountain with a tiny bit of faith.  We are imbued with this power from the Holy Spirit.  I was deceived by my symptoms, thinking I was sick, but scripture says Jesus bore my sicknesses and by His stripes I am healed.  So why do I feel sick?  I don't know, but I do know that I have seen improvement for the first time in years (after tens of doctors, countless dietary changes, and hundreds of medications) as I claim out loud that I am well. 

   And I'm doing the same for our marriage, for my children's afflictions, my husband's afflictions, our finances. I have faith that God will fulfill what he promises.  Now, Greg has free will, but whatever he does, I'll still have a deep, intimate relationship with God, and the provisions to care for me and my children. Because, without God and His provisions, there is no one to care for my helpless babies -- I can not work and I am too sick take care of the kids alone -- indeed my future is grim without Christ. But that's not the true state of things! I DO have Jesus and who the son sets free is free indeed. We have Life abundantly RIGHT NOW! He didn't just save us once, love us once, He is saving us, loving us today! Don't accept less from the Enemy!

    How old are your children? I'm sure they're amazing -- they're no small piece of hope. They are your legacy. They are at least part of your ministry. Have they forgiven your ex? You are powerful and your words are powerful. The Word says we are more than conquerors. I'm telling you the lies, rage, and deceit are going to become a speck in the rear-view mirror soon enough. Your life won't be defined by those things. You're so much more than that, and so is God...


"Then you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free." --Jesus

"So take a new grip with your tired hands and strengthen your weak knees."  --Paul
     Thread Starter
 

November 28, 2016 3:07 pm  #7


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

I'm a believer, Charity.

I'm not quite understanding your current situation.  Evidently he confessed trans feelings to you a year ago.  You say the holy spirit has worked this past year.  What is the current situation?  Is he embracing transitioning, or trying to hold himself from those feelings?  In either case, how's it going?

Kel


You are not required to set yourself on fire to keep other people warm.
 

December 1, 2016 8:25 pm  #8


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

I am a believer too Charity.
I also did all the "right" things ...I even met my husband AT church.  On the surface, one would think he was the better christian, but the fact is...he lied to me and solicited sex outside of our marriage. The fact that it was a man seeking a man was just "icing on the cake".

We only had sex 3 times in two years.  And if I were to be honest, part of me is looking forward to going out there and "playing the field."  He made me feel like a dirty hoe for requesting a FULL marriage-he was tired, he didnt feel well, he had low Testerone, etc etc etc. Always some excuse.

Nope...he was getting it from guys on Craigslist.

 

 

December 5, 2016 10:17 am  #9


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2MmEjZxdMg

Cold, cold water surrounds me now
And all I've got is your hand
Lord, can you hear me now?
Lord, can you hear me now?
Lord, can you hear me now?
Or am I lost?Love one's daughter
Allow me that
And I can't let go of your hand
Lord, can you hear me now?
Lord, can you hear me now?
Lord, can you hear me now?
Or am I lost?
Cold, cold water surrounds me now
And all I've got is your hand
Lord, can you hear me now?
Lord, can you hear me now?
Lord, can you hear me now?
Or am I lost?


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

December 5, 2016 11:29 am  #10


Re: Any Christian Believers on here?

NaiveChump wrote:

I am a believer too Charity.
I also did all the "right" things ...I even met my husband AT church.  On the surface, one would think he was the better christian, but the fact is...he lied to me and solicited sex outside of our marriage. The fact that it was a man seeking a man was just "icing on the cake".

We only had sex 3 times in two years.  And if I were to be honest, part of me is looking forward to going out there and "playing the field."  He made me feel like a dirty hoe for requesting a FULL marriage-he was tired, he didnt feel well, he had low Testerone, etc etc etc. Always some excuse.

Nope...he was getting it from guys on Craigslist.

 

I met my wife in college, but only considered her a potential partner because she was also on fire for the Lord.  We went church together, some college bible study groups, etc..   She said she believe homosexuality was a sin for years after we go married.   In the past few years though, she has changed a lot in her religious beliefs.  She has abandoned the basic tenants of Christianity, but still claims she is a Christian.  She hates the church.  I believe she  has been tempted by the devil to listen to false teachers who teach what she wants to hear.  She wants to be told that it's ok to be sexually sinful (not just talking about homosexuality.. but sex outside marriage, adultery, etc..)  She wants to believe that you can die without knowing the Lord and he will still allow you into heaven because he loves everyone so much.   It's basically permission to sin as much as you like here during your life without any consequences. 

Anyway.. sorry for the rant.  I guess what I was trying to say is that I too thought my relationship was grounded on the Lord and because of that it should have been blessed and successful.  Sadly we can't be 100% sure that our partners will remain faithful to God through their lives.   


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

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