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March 31, 2022 3:34 pm  #1


Transgender

For those of you that have found out your husband was trans, were there any signs before they came out to you? I'm in a situation where I am suspecting because of certain behaviors and internet history. He denies everything. I'm just feeling very lost and I guess looking for some validation. I hate this.

 

April 1, 2022 5:48 am  #2


Re: Transgender

Hi Lemma. My husband came out as trans several months ago. He never acted feminine in any way, so I never suspected a thing. I knew he often felt inadequate as a man but I always attributed that to his difficult childhood and rather toxic masculinity present in his family.

Talking about internet history... my husband had joined an online community with some LGBT members. He realized how much he had in common with them. Then he came out as bisexual, then nonbinary and then trans. The only feminine thing he did during all that time was that he started wearing a skirt.

I don't know if this is helpful to you. The signs may be different, but I think the internet history does not lie. It shows your husband's real interests, even if he denies them.

 

April 1, 2022 9:54 am  #3


Re: Transgender

Thank you for responding Marianne. A lot of what of I have found is trans porn, but also browsing trans forums and trans posts on twitter. I noticed he started following some trans people on twitter (non-sexual content). He tells me he was just curious, but his internet history also includes searches for sexuality types and some searches for nonbinary emojis. I just don't know what to think. He's always been sympathetic to the LGBTQ community and has always liked watching documentaries about trans people. I thought he was just a really open minded person. It's obvious he has always felt insecure about his masculinity. He used to say to me "I'm a man", often, if I ever joked about him not being able to do something or sometimes unprovoked. It got to the point I said why do you say that. He has since stopped. He's always been very submissive. I handle all our finances, bills, literally everything. I used to think to myself for years he was like being married to a woman. He has said many times to me women are lucky because they have nicer clothes. He's really into the way he looks, clothes, etc. He started growing his hair out right around the time I found the trans history and now keeps his once goatee clean shaven. We were playing a video game once and when he saw my female character he said wow you're beautiful. Then he said maybe he should make a female character. This was before I had any suspicions and I think I just paused and said something like ok if you want. When he heard me hesitate, he was just like no I won't. I never thought anything of it. I feel stupid for not noticing things like that. We have had so many problems with intimacy. I have to initiate most of the time and have been rejected so many times. I'm so confused because while I think he could be questioning his gender, sometimes I wonder if he's gay. Or maybe both? Dysphoria? If he sees male nudity on tv he gets awkward and looks away or comments about how it's gross. It's been a year since I found the internet stuff and this is the first time I've told anyone about it. I've always sensed something was off. We're both in our 40's and have been together for 16 years. I love this person very much. There is so much more and it's just so hard to hold all of it in. It's so hard to hear him tell me I'm crazy and dead wrong when I can literally see with my own eyes that something is up. I doubt myself all the time and wonder if I'm putting myself through this for nothing. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

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April 1, 2022 10:45 am  #4


Re: Transgender

I know this is difficult, Lemma. I can't even find the right words to describe it.

All of the following are red flags. If there is just one or two, it may not mean anything... but together they show the whole picture, like a puzzle.

- browsing trans forums/posts (cis people do this only when they have a trans friend or family member they try to understand)
- searches for sexuality types (means he's trying to figure out his identity)
- nonbinary emojis (starting to express that identity)
- trans porn
- liking trans documentaries
- insecure about his masculinity
- envious of women (clothes etc.)
- growing his hair (this is very common first step in MTF community)
- suddenly shaving his beard
- female character in videogames (this is a meme in trans community)
- and your gut feeling something is off

I really wish I could tell you something different. But look at those puzzle pieces all together. 

Some gay/trans people are able to hide it for decades. I don't know if your husband is hiding the truth even from himself, is too scared to come out, wants to lead a secret trans life while keeping all the perks of married life... There are many possible reasons. But expecting him to be honest and open about this may be futile.

Whatever you choose to do in this terrible situation... trust your instincts.

 

April 1, 2022 11:44 am  #5


Re: Transgender

Lemma,
   My (now ex) husband who one day declared he was "a woman in a man's body" had never exhibited anything that would have suggested he was anything but a man.  Not a hyper masculine man, but a man.   Subsequently I found out he'd been hiding many things from me, and most of them you have described: browsing trans sites, watching trans porn, identified with women (referred to himself as a male feminist).  After his declaration, he shaved his beard, wanted to shave his legs (actually, he had a fantasy that I would shave his legs!), and revealed that for years he'd been filching my undergarments when I wasn't home and wearing them.  
  I agree with Marianne.  Your gut is right on this one.  Trust your instincts.  And remember, sometimes things we love are not good for us.  

 

April 1, 2022 1:01 pm  #6


Re: Transgender

Delete
 

 

Last edited by Lynne (July 15, 2022 6:14 pm)

 

April 1, 2022 1:49 pm  #7


Re: Transgender

If you take away the cross dressing etc, what you are left with is a male who is attracted to men and wants to be the submissive one.  ie he is still gay.

I can understand why they'd like to dress up as women but the medical interventions to try and look like a female, goodness I don't understand that, it seems entirely crazy to me to mutilate your body so much, it is not going to make for a comfortable old age, is it.  But then people stick staples in their nipples so what do I know!

 

April 1, 2022 5:47 pm  #8


Re: Transgender

I have quite a few memories of my TGXH when we were married and earlier that pointed to him having this tendency.  I didn't realize their significance until he came out.  I do remember that I didn't think he was very masculine before we were married.  I do think trans men are delusional to think they can change their gender and our society is crazy to support them.

 

April 1, 2022 6:35 pm  #9


Re: Transgender

Lily,
 At least half of the men--probably more--who declare they are transgender remain attracted to women.  

 

April 1, 2022 9:22 pm  #10


Re: Transgender

Well you may be right OOHC, I'm not saying you're wrong I'm not nearly as well read let alone experienced in the world of TG but from what I have seen personally, it is more that they are turned on by the idea of themselves as a woman - and there seems to be a phase where they ardently declare themselves lesbians but when it comes to it they are not actually attracted to actual women.

And quite honestly, how many gay men are going to want a man dollied up in girls clothes when they can see oh there's the cute gay man with the adorable butt in his well pressed trousers.

From what I have seen the most successful relationships for transgender men are with each other.  

 

 

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