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July 23, 2018 2:49 pm  #1111


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

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July 23, 2018 4:36 pm  #1112


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Duped, years ago, I knew he tried on my daughter's bikini string underwear. I just confronted him regarding what I found. it appears to be from about 5 years ago according to the receipt. He said he forgot it was there.

Sean, I  just had another conversation with the GIDH, he admits his therapist told him he has repressed homophobia, my GIDH admits he is emotionally straight, and maybe sexually attracted to males but would never act on it cause he wants to save our marriage. He is now 65 years old, can he repress this homo desires the older he gets or will these desires for a man increase?

I believe if the opportunity is there for homo sexual encounters he would take advantage of it.

 

July 23, 2018 7:56 pm  #1113


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Here's the thing Violated.  Does it matter exactly what he is?  Are you satisfied and happy in a relationship to a man who conducts a secret and parallel sex life, who buys and uses dildos, is a frequent porn user, who has contracted Hep B (and please don't insult your own intelligence by believing his bs about how he acquired it).  What difference does it make whether he's gay or not?  You don't have to positively identify him as "GAY" to have it be okay to say, This is not ok with me, and I need to divorce you.  
   I don't think you should delude yourself with the hope that he's going to give this up.  My own 60 year old stbx has doubled down as he's gotten older, as if having repressed it so long, he feels he is owed or must "become who he is."  

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July 23, 2018 10:54 pm  #1114


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

out, you are so right. I don't want a husband who visits adult sex stores, engages in self gratification using anal dildos, enjoys looking at gay porn, claims no sex with me for past 10 years was my fault because I had a hysterectomy and it was my fault that I did not initiate sex with him. But after 44 years of marriage it is hard to leave, I want more, I want respect, I want to be valued, I want to be loved as a wife not a buddy......but maybe this is as good as it gets for me......IDK

 

July 24, 2018 9:33 am  #1115


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Violated,
 I wrote you a long comment this morning but lost it in a computer freeze up.  But I think I can summarize the gist of what I had to say:
    The reality of what you're living is not "as good as it gets" for you.  You may never be partnered again, but on your own at least you will not be lied to, cheated on, and disrespected.  
   I am now living on my own after 35 years of marriage.  I still have periods of grief and loneliness.  But these, I've realized, are all to do with what I underwent in my marriage to a closeted person, and down to that.  Everything else about my life is better.  I don't live with constant anxiety, with unspoken expectations, in an atmosphere of blame.  I don't go to bed at night knowing that I will receive no affection or that my touches will be rebuffed.  I am now free to cultivate the friendships I had pinched back because living in his closet kept me from authentic, honest relationships.  I have learned people like to be around me, that I make them laugh, that I have interesting thoughts.  I have come to understand that to believe I have value is not prima facie evidence that I am selfish.  
  I may never have another relationship with a man, may never again have a lover.  But what I have now is far, far better than the wreck of a marriage in which I was living. 

 

July 24, 2018 10:55 am  #1116


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Out, thanks for your words of encouragement, I am doing my best Not to let fear rule me. In the midst of all of this I got laid off, so I had to move back in with my GIDH, and I am working on a new exit plan. I need him for health insurance for the next 9 months, and then I hope by then I will figure this all out . I am seeing a new counselor next week, who specializes in straight spouses, and praying maybe he can give me some insight , help me with an action plan. Someone said on this site and I can't recall who it was but it hit me in my gut, "I loved the man he pretended to be not the man he actually is".......OMG! 

Thanks again for sharing your truth with me.

 

July 28, 2018 3:36 am  #1117


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Violated -  I was just thinking the same as Duped.  He put them in there on purpose to throw you off his scent. I don't believe it for a second.  My STBX was even gay bashing last week!  I wanted to just laugh.  THEY DO THINK THAT WE'RE THAT STUPID!

Now that I think of it, I remember reading one of his CL ad responses,  "Do you bottom with your panties on?"  So IDK.  He says he's the bi masculine top but I tell you he's as gay as the day is long.

Last edited by Kathyd (July 28, 2018 3:45 am)


WTF
 

July 28, 2018 8:22 am  #1118


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Kathy, now that I am back in the house, I am being a "detective," again. I am always able to find something....his GPS shows me that he frequents adult sex shops.

I know it is not mentally healthy for me to keep playing the "detective' role, but in some strange way, it just helps me reaffirm the truth and see him as the man he really is. He still pleads and cries how much he loves me and will change.......just BS....nothing more.

 

July 28, 2018 9:59 pm  #1119


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Affirmation is a good thing I think.  The more the better so it leaves an imprint in your mind and you see him in a whole new light.  For me anyway. 

Things can only better from down here !


WTF
 

August 3, 2018 8:57 am  #1120


Re: A gay ex-husband answers your questions

Sean (plus anyone else).... can you shed any light on this... (I told my husband that before I make any decision—- stay with him/leaving him/having an open marriage/etc. that I would try to process everything as best that I could and be as open minded as I could. So anyhow I am trying to see things from his perspective. So far this has been EXTREMELY difficult.)

Let me give you a little background...

Married 20 years
Pretty good marriage
Have 2 kids - teens
Very supportive of each other
Neither of us have cheated on the other (I believe this to be true for my husband)
We spend most of our time together— work together, exercise together, go to appointments together.
I do a lot for him... I enjoy helping. I always have. (When I was a kid before going to play with the other kids, I would ask the adults what I could do to help them first)
He takes care of me...makes sure our investments are doing well, makes sure things are in working order, arranges things so I don’t have extra stress
I was his first
He is very interested in male to female sex
We like to watch porn - homosexual or heterosexual- together
We have had done fantasies together before
We have a load of toys
He has never had any gay sex experiences (I believe this to be true)
We don’t lie to each other - I have all of the passwords to his accounts and visa versa.
We tell each other what our plans are for the day. He knows where I am and I know where he is or we are together
He is going through his midlife crisis

He recently told me that he “knows” that he is bisexual and asked permission to explore that side of him. He wants me to explore that side with him too if I want.

He told me that since he has only has had heterosexual experiences, he has a hole in him and doesn’t feel complete.

Not only does he want to experience homosexual sex but wants to develop an emotional connection with a male but not the same that he has with me. He insists it won’t be the same...that it can’t be the same. That he wants to be married to me because he loves me so much and wants to be together until we die. But he needs someone who can understand his male bisexual part of him.

He doesn’t want to have multiple partners. Just one and me.

He said that since I am not a guy and not bisexual that it will be difficult for me to understand this desire—-“need” of his.

So can you help me “understand”....

 

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