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September 14, 2020 4:53 am  #1


Moving On

Hi everyone
3 weeks since 'bomb drop'.  Last week I was really struggling - emotions and feelings all over the place, very little sleep and the possibility of a new profile on the dating website (although I couldn't say for certain it was his).
Anyway, another 'discussion' on Saturday - TL;DR the usual obfuscation, blaming ('you've been this way for 30 years', 'it's depressing', 'I'm trying but what are you doing?', 'it's not all about you, you know').  Absolutely no recognition that there is an issue.
Basically he wants me to forget it (whatever 'it' was - TGT? The cheating? The lying? The gaslighting?) ever happened and move on - all the while supporting him (but not with TGT because that's not an issue!?).
BUT..I'm not prepared to do it!
So for the sake of my sanity and bearing in mind the whole global pandemic (we have a local lockdown at the moment), I've given myself a year to get things 'sorted' (both in my own head and practically).  As I said in another post, I think if anything is going to happen it'll be when my daughter moves into her own place - she's looking to do this next year.
At the moment I'm on the waiting list for (individual) counselling and I'm going to contact my GP for an appointment.  I had an appointment with my lawyer in February to discuss money/property issues.
I'd be interested to hear from those of you who have been in this situation and have made it to the 'other side' - are there other things I should be considering meantime?
Thanks in advance for any advice - I really appreciate it!
PS the 'new' profile was deleted an hour after our discussion.  Coincidence?
 

Last edited by Musselburgh (September 14, 2020 6:00 am)


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September 14, 2020 6:11 am  #2


Re: Moving On

I feel for you, Musselburgh. My partner also was trying to get me to forget, stop looking for details. Basically pretend as if it never happened. I'm today with the similar question in my head. I will stick here to read what people have to say. I asked him several times about the details, about anything really as the only thing he said was "i think i'm bi" and i saw trans porn he saw. This is all I know. After 12 years of "knowing the person" this is all I know on the subject. And all I deserve to know? How do I get him to tell me more? Should I? Should I leave it out for my sanity? I feel I need this info to close the chapter. I can't turn the page... yet... Is it my place to demand info? He just won't speak about it AT ALL.

 

September 16, 2020 8:37 am  #3


Re: Moving On

 re are there other things to consider meantime - the main thing that sticks out to me is your daughter.  can you talk with her? 

the other thing I want to say is that as you get used to the situation, as you settle down, as you settle for what you have as you work out how to emotionally support yourself it becomes like, well I remember in my 40's thinking I'm glad we stayed together, this is not so bad but then it got worse again.  it was a subterranean manipulative sort of bullying and I learnt once you are okay, once you aren't making a fuss any more, the bar drops down further again.  And I think that is something people in MOMs do a lot - settle for what you have because it's not so bad, it's quite nice even and it's the familiar but then round the bend I would be back to feeling more miserable than ever and we could never reach that point of sweet sailing.  far from it,  I remember thinking (having seen that film with Kathy Bates) it was like I was being kneecapped when I got up and got going.

 

 

September 16, 2020 9:30 am  #4


Re: Moving On

re: Are there other things to consider meantime:
 
    It's good to set a deadline for yourself.  However, please remember that you can alter that deadline if circumstances and/or your feelings or readiness change.  

    That it's ok to change your mind and do so without feeling guilty or pressured after you've made a decision is a good rule of thumb to remember.  It applies to all sorts of situations and helps us as we are learning to establish and maintain healthy boundaries.  

  

 

September 19, 2020 4:44 am  #5


Re: Moving On

JaneWonders wrote:

I feel for you, Musselburgh. My partner also was trying to get me to forget, stop looking for details. Basically pretend as if it never happened. I'm today with the similar question in my head. I will stick here to read what people have to say. I asked him several times about the details, about anything really as the only thing he said was "i think i'm bi" and i saw trans porn he saw. This is all I know. After 12 years of "knowing the person" this is all I know on the subject. And all I deserve to know? How do I get him to tell me more? Should I? Should I leave it out for my sanity? I feel I need this info to close the chapter. I can't turn the page... yet... Is it my place to demand info? He just won't speak about it AT ALL.

Hi Jane
Yes, I would say you do deserve to know - we all deserve to know the truth.  The issue arises when we are denied the truth; that, I feel, is the hardest part of this whole situation. 
I'm the type of person that once I have even the smallest piece of information I have to dig for more.  It's like scratching a scab: you know it's going to hurt but you keep on doing it anyway.  The information I have discovered (even right up until a couple of days ago) is downright upsetting and my heart is sore, however, I have to know the truth as he is not prepared to tell me. I hope you get some answers soon.  Take care.


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September 19, 2020 4:55 am  #6


Re: Moving On

lily wrote:

 re are there other things to consider meantime - the main thing that sticks out to me is your daughter.  can you talk with her? 

the other thing I want to say is that as you get used to the situation, as you settle down, as you settle for what you have as you work out how to emotionally support yourself it becomes like, well I remember in my 40's thinking I'm glad we stayed together, this is not so bad but then it got worse again.  it was a subterranean manipulative sort of bullying and I learnt once you are okay, once you aren't making a fuss any more, the bar drops down further again.  And I think that is something people in MOMs do a lot - settle for what you have because it's not so bad, it's quite nice even and it's the familiar but then round the bend I would be back to feeling more miserable than ever and we could never reach that point of sweet sailing.  far from it,  I remember thinking (having seen that film with Kathy Bates) it was like I was being kneecapped when I got up and got going.

 

Hi lily & OfHC
Thanks for posting.  Lily, I will speak to my daughter, however, right now is not the right time. It's a 'play it by ear' situation at the moment.  If she asks, I will tell her. 
I have spoken to a work friend which really helped, especially given she experienced similar (albeit it was M/F).
Appreciate your comments re deadlines OfHC - I am working towards the year but realise this may change. Take care.
 


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October 14, 2020 6:40 pm  #7


Re: Moving On

Musselburgh, 

I’m so sorry you’re going through all of this. My husband is bi as well. I wish you the best. 

tangled 

 

October 14, 2020 7:24 pm  #8


Re: Moving On

My bomb drop (rather my discovery of his secret affairs w/men) was in early June.  Denial of all until I gave him a name of one of the men.  Then confession of only that man, and it was only 3 times of getting together, and never sex only massage w/happy ending (I believe a lie that there was no sex). Really, how can I believe anything he tells me?  I understand wanting to know....but then when I realize he's a liar, then I somehow settle with the evidence I have is enough and cannot be disputed.  It's very hard, I agree to want more info/details/confession. I think for me I have to remember his denial is so deep and and he doesn't even know what he is - gay, bi, confused?  How can I expect him to give me info when he's so confused in his own head. And by the way, he's 60 years old.  At some basic human level I feel sorry fo him, once I dig beneath the anger.  So far what I've experienced is that it's a process of many emotions.  It's a ride, but be gentle with yourself.  Do nice things for yourself.  Hopefully this will give you strength when you need it and you can make it thru the the lows.  Wishing you the best. This is a great resource.

 

October 15, 2020 10:08 am  #9


Re: Moving On

Blind one,

You mentioned, “never sex only massage with happy ending “. 

I hate being the one to say this, but how did he get a “happy ending “ without sex (either hand job or bj)?

My bi husband is good at using phrases that make it sound better than it really was. I can’t think of any right now, of course. Whenever I mention something like that to him, he wants me to give him an example, and my mind goes blank, so he thinks I was wrong 🥴.  

Anyway, passing on my experience, which is more than I ever wanted it to be ☹️. 

 

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