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September 28, 2017 3:58 pm  #31


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

Are you TG Theresa or your spouse?

I would say if you already have a spouse and aren't out then damage is already done.

In my experience non-tg partners just simply cannot understand any of it. We try, jeez we try, we WANT to understand, I have spent 9 months in a bubble trying to understand. But we just don't, we aren't capable of taking it in and making sense. And that is the mindfuck for us, we are left bereft and confused. And unless someone is totally and utterly honest from the start then you have lies on top of the mindfuck and that is destructive. Which is why us partners of tgs are here struggling and all a bit lost.

For me I felt totally second best to the 'fantasies', I am so bitter about that. I think others would agree that sex with a tg/cd is almost like you're not even there.

I'm sorry I can only be honest and most of us are in a bad place emotionally.

 

September 28, 2017 4:23 pm  #32


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

Theresa do you think a TG spouse can be sexually and emotionally committed to their spouse, monogamous physically and mentally?
Based on my experience, my view is definitely not.

I would welcome your view

 

September 28, 2017 8:13 pm  #33


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

Why u typing for her? Get your own screen name. I smell misogyny.

 

September 28, 2017 9:17 pm  #34


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

Allison,
He/she introduced himself as a transgendered partner. I think that is the reason why this member signs as Theresa TG.

 

September 28, 2017 9:27 pm  #35


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

Allison, i believe Lena is correct.  Theresa is a husband transitioning to female and identifies as female.  She is typing as herself (the trans partner) and not for the wife.

Theresa, welcome to the group.  I hope you can find answers and advice about how to make your transition easier on your wife and family.
I'm sure you can understand that for women who have been badly hurt by a trans spouse, having a trans spouse on the board can be a trigger of harsh emotions.  So I will ask you to take extra care in how you pick your words and be extra patient if you see responses that aren't as kind as you deserve.

Sean is a former gay in denial husband who has been very active on this forum.  He has been a great resource for our group, but his time here has not been without challenges.  One thing he does that helps is that he posts only in his dedicated thread.


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

September 28, 2017 10:48 pm  #36


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

I am new at this whole TG thing, this TGT and all these bs labels. If you have dragged another human being into a closet without their awareness it is a CRIME. I have absolutely NO sensitivity to you.  40 years i have been walking around on egg shells and trying to figure out wtf is wrong with me. To find out ten days ago by accident i am with a who knows what he thinks he is or wants to be in a human man body. OUTRAGED barely covers it. Do u know how many times this fucker hospitalized me.?  It is not me it has never been me. Why should i be sensitive to someone who is transitioning from one sex to another??? they are in the wrong place, the wrong support group. REALLY? is this the place gender transitioning lying time thieves go to feel better?  I came here to get the fuck away from them. CRUEL SELFISH Narsacisstic gay men who want to be ugly women. PRICELESS!!!  

 

September 29, 2017 1:56 am  #37


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

Phoenix, thank you so much for that post, this is hugely triggering for us. I can’t handle reading the rest of this thread.

Last edited by Duped (September 29, 2017 2:10 am)

 

September 29, 2017 6:56 am  #38


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

First triggers first.  No one "transitions" from one sex (M--XY chromosomes) to another (F--XX chromosomes).  Sex is not changeable.  I don't care what the "common usage" is.  That usage developed out of a trans-supporting industry.

 Second: I am utterly and completely uninterested in helping a man with gender dysphoria who has chosen to treat that dysphoria by beginning to live as if he were a woman "navigate the future" with his spouse, which necessarily requires her to remake her own sexuality in order to fit her husband's newly declared sexual identity.  There are many forums out there for that already: My Husband Betty (Helen Boyd), etc. 

 Third: If his wife wants to come here to talk about her own situation, *she's* welcome, as far as I'm concerned.

  Fourth, and last: And these will be my only words directed to "Theresa":  if you want to be ethical, divorce your wife and free her to be her own authentic self rather than feeling entitled to her care and help and partnership, and asking her to remake herself and her sexuality and redefine her life by your dysphoric embrace of the idea you can be a woman. Any man who loves his wife doesn't put her through the agony of living with a man who is attempting to live as if he were a woman.  She didn't sign up for it; she didn't ask for it; she doesn't want it.  If you want to have "peace" with your decision, go find it with a therapist, and don't come here asking those of us partnered to the likes of you to absolve you and give you peace.
 
   
  
 

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September 29, 2017 7:46 am  #39


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

I beg to differ with your interpretation of not bringing it into your relationship. I’ll bet you’ve lied to her, dressed in secret, acted out to porn and online. Meanwhile leaving her wondering if she’s ugly, fat, boring.

Hiding things is not being honest nor is it protecting your wife.

SURELY, you’re going to divorce her then leave her be? Because you’ve said you can’t be faithful and you clearly want a trans partner.

Just leave her be and give her our address, she’s gonna need us.

We, here don’t need to be confused further by another TG, we have enough of that with our own.

 

September 29, 2017 8:30 am  #40


Re: New here, how does this work? Husband came out, plans to transition.

While I don't think Theresa's intentions were to disrupt or trigger anyone, it is clear that this was the result.  I have removed the user's account. 

The SSN is designed to support the straight spouse.  While this forum will not make a blanket rule to restrict membership to only straight spouses, if the presence of a LGBT person causes pain to the straight spouses who are the focus of the forum we will respectfully remove them from the forum. 

Apologies if my welcome message to Theresa offended anyone.  I try to be welcoming to everyone in hopes of constructive conversations, but based on the responses here in this thread and some messages I received, I can see that it wasn't the best for our group at this time. 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

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