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August 27, 2019 12:59 pm  #21


Re: Found after Deceased

are we talking about the unicorn - a threesome with a woman who wants to bonk you both

or couples therapy - where you both find girlfriends and then bond as a single family rather than go your separate ways

or something different again?

I can appreciate the straightness compatibility of the idea .. but don't you think you might get all monogamous over her if you found yourself in bed with the right woman?  

 

August 27, 2019 2:30 pm  #22


Re: Found after Deceased

I think its about the people and not primarily the shape of the relationship.
Whatever that shape ends up being, I look forward to the conversation and process of getting there.

Navigating pull toward mono is part of it. 

"The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance." - Alan Watts

Very differently from many here, I'm not experiencing a difference which, for today and most likely the next tomorrows - appears to be irreconcilable.

For the thread, and the original poster, you may never discover the truth about your parents real interpersonal relationship...  He sounded like a great guy and your mother as well. 

He may have lost the one who knew.

Last edited by Paraceleus (August 28, 2019 10:40 am)

 

August 27, 2019 2:47 pm  #23


Re: Found after Deceased

Without different options, the cycle simply continues and the best kept secret in the world - bisexuality, remains hidden and damaging.

 

August 27, 2019 3:00 pm  #24


Re: Found after Deceased

ShockedDaughter check your private messages!

 

August 27, 2019 6:44 pm  #25


Re: Found after Deceased

Paraceleus wrote:

I think its about the people and not primarily the shape of the relationship.
Whatever that shape ends up being, I look forward to the conversation and process of getting there.

Navigating pull toward mono is part of it.

"The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance." - Alan Watts

Yes of course it's the person that counts but you can't ask your bisexual wife to change her attraction to women any more than you can make your straight self attracted to men.  If there's a woman who wants to bonk you both and she's not sociopathic then she's probably nuts over your wife and prepared to do anything to be with her.

Either that or she's nuts over you.  

Either way people's feelings are being bruised.  What happens when the anodyne wears off?

It's like grey being made of black and white particles - the future comes one lifetime at a time - for all that we adapt, your die was cast at the beginning. How you will grow and mature is determined by that.  Navigating the pull towards mono does not sound like a good plan to me.  Like trying to make your cat a vegetarian - not even the vegetables want to be eaten!


 

Last edited by lily (August 27, 2019 6:45 pm)

 

August 27, 2019 11:27 pm  #26


Re: Found after Deceased

lily wrote:

If there's a woman who wants to bonk you both and she's not sociopathic then she's probably nuts over your wife and prepared to do anything to be with her.

The proper term to describe such a person would be bisexual, not sociopath (necessarily). ;)

I expect no leopards to change spots... or for the sinister, left handed folk to convert...
In the same way, I can't project straight on those who are not - so what is the ideal algebra?

Straight people think 'straight'... not straight people don't.

I accept the difference and have yet to be hurt.

 

August 28, 2019 10:09 am  #27


Re: Found after Deceased

Paracelsus

Oh if only those of us who left could have found some way to preserve our marriages. We found ourselves without the reciprocity we needed and hence the pain. I assume your partner has acted on her  desires and you are alluding to living in an active open relationship. Can you confirm?

 

August 28, 2019 11:02 am  #28


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a_dads_straight_journey wrote:

Oh if only those of us who left could have found some way to preserve our marriages. We found ourselves without the reciprocity we needed and hence the pain.

From many here, the deceits, broken communication, elicit acts and putting spouses at heath risk without consent, the marriages aren't things to be saved.  The interests of both parties are better served by ending it and trying to heal.

If the true differences between people are too great, preservation would only be preservation of a painful sham.

That isn't my case.

I assume your partner has acted on her  desires and you are alluding to living in an active open relationship. Can you confirm?

 
Yes, we've been open for two and a half years - both of us dating independently.  As Lily alluded to, much is still theoretical.  Neither of us have encountered 'spark' and we have been actively seeking.  whatever happens - even if the whole thing goes sideways, it's true and we'll co-author a good book out of it

When we looked at each other's porn histories, they matched.

 

August 28, 2019 1:18 pm  #29


Re: Found after Deceased

Somehow I think that the original poster's concerns have gotten lost along the way to page 3 so is it possible to untangle it and give her back her thread and give the latter posts their own space?


Try Gardening. It'll keep you grounded.
 

August 28, 2019 1:48 pm  #30


Re: Found after Deceased

Thanks Abby...

To bring it back, a strange thing happened while everything in my relationship came to light...

My spouse's parents were unable to hide their own stories.

I'd known of an infidelity committed by my father-in-law that happened while we were first dating.
Two decades after, my wife finally asked her mother if it was with a man or woman.

The response was "woman, that time...".  She then told my wife of her own same sex attraction.

My in-laws are in a closeted, 'fake straight', non-mixed orientation marriage. 

From outside appearances,  no one would ever suspect. 

I however, suspect it to be common.  Perhaps even the norm.

 

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