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December 2, 2018 2:50 pm  #1


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I am 64 years old my husband of 40 f** years did not mean for me to ever find out, but he was outed when he did something really stupid. That was 1.5 years ago. We were busy, sick, and I just pushed it under the rug until recently when I decided I could not ignore it anymore. I looked on his computer and there is a ton of porn and chat room videos. He also has seen prostitutes in the past and insists he is unable to get an erection, so he acts like "the woman". He also says he doesnot think being with a prostitute is cheating. Really?? If you are with someone else other than your spouse and lying to your spouse about it, in my book, that is cheating!

He says he is not sure if he is gay or bi -but non of his porn is hetero - it is all gay, so I guess I figured it out for him. When we did have sex, it was really good and he was very attentive to my wants. But a while back, we stopped having sex. He had triple by-pass and is diabetic, and I had a stroke. Both of us being unhealthy, does not help a sex life.

We are still living together as our financial situation has also been a disaster. He started his own business and it does not make enough money, so we have gone through our savings. I am an artist and teacher, so I make very little. We are stuck staying together for now. It is horrible not to have choices as to what to do. We still have not told our grown daughters. He started seeing a therapist and I am going with him for the first time this coming week. But I need my own.  He was always short tempered and could get mean and now I know why. Ever since I found out he is gay, I have gotten mean and short tempered. 

I guess this is a rant - because I don't see a way out of this, but if anyone has advise as to how I can ever get through this, I am open to hearing it.

 

December 2, 2018 3:37 pm  #2


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Panic40 wrote:

I guess this is a rant - because I don't see a way out of this, but if anyone has advise as to how I can ever get through this, I am open to hearing it.

 

You've come to the right place Panic You'll get warm empathy, good advice and straight-talking (that's not meant as a pun but.....hey!) 
I'm 60, in a 34 year r'ship with a man who decided he needed to explore his...he calls it "bi side" but he talked of one day being "fucked by a man" so I see it as....gay-side.
I'm co-dependent....I hate that term now because I only came to see myself as codependent when all this shit happened....which makes leaving difficult. Not impossible, everything just has a different timeline. There's a statistic that says a certain % of couples who try to stay together after the bombshell of realising everything has changed ......last 3 years. I'm in my 2nd year of that 3. We both want different things. 
My partner has a Plan B if we separate. To me....he has everything we built over the last 3 decades. 

I'm slowly working on my own Plan B

Did I say?...you're in the best place for advice


KIA KAHA                       
 

December 2, 2018 5:27 pm  #3


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Panic, I'm so sorry you find yourself here.

I ultimately made the decision to divorce, and that process has been initiated but is likely to take a while.  I get exactly what you are saying about the financial issues.

My suggestion to you, is that if you do decide to remain together, you need an absolute assurance from him that no more of your resources will ever be used to pay prostitutes.  This has been a big issue for me.  I have no idea how to go about enforcing a promise like that, or how I would reliably monitor his behavior, so ultimately I opted to divorce, but if you can figure out a way to hang on to the purse strings, that might be one suggestion.

 

December 2, 2018 6:53 pm  #4


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First rule from the Hitchhiker's guide to the Universe is don't panic and never trust a Vogon.  Vogon's write bad poetry.  

So now you are panicking but you have finally stopped trusting your Vogon.  This is good.  

So if I might get a bit dark here - you are into the endgame of a misfitting marriage.  This is a very common place to find yourself and it becomes who survives the marriage - and it is very likely both of you want to do that.  Neither of you want your whole life to have been consumed by it.

so yes, hang on to the purse strings.  That was the first thing I did, ultimately I was able to get divorced but the first thing was to take back doing the household accounts.

and this encapsulates what you can do to help yourself.  No confrontations, take a step back from him, turn and embrace your dear darling inner bitch and let her fly.  I like the sound of your being mean and short tempered with him, I think you will find it helps. 

Turn the tables on him. 

All those years.  I had no idea how manipulated I was.  But then one day I am in the kitchen, and instead of being conciliatory I stood there and was angrier with him than he was putting on me.  omg.  It was a game changer.  He immediately stood back.  And he didn't try it again.  It wasn't real, it was purely manipulation by his inner bitch.  And he'd been getting away with it forever.

so it's worth a bit of a panic but you still need your cool  -  be kind and gentle to yourself at all times.  Look after your well being, inside and out.  Find a friend you can talk to if possible.

wishing you all the best, Lily




 


 

 

December 2, 2018 6:57 pm  #5


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I'm so sorry you are finding yourself here. Although I am a bit younger than you, age 50, I totally understand about the financial issues. My GID husband and I had mapped out our retirement plan and now I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to afford to retire comfortably unless I'm lucky enough to find a companion to split expenses with me. 

Anyway, I just got to this site myself. I have 3 teenage children so I am waiting for the holiday season to be over and then I'll be moving into the inlaw apartment in my home. That way I can be away from him somewhat but close to my kids. 

I wish I had good advice for you but I'm just not far enough into the process yet myself. I can give you some virtual hugs and let you know that you aren't alone. *hugs*

 

December 2, 2018 8:35 pm  #6


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Thank you all so much for your support. I am finding it hard to talk to friends since we are trying to decide when to tell the (grown) kids. My entire family will be together over the holidays, which we are not looking forward to, so I think we will wait to talk to the kids until after that. 
But in the meantime, this is really really hard, so I appreciate knowing that I can have people to "talk" to.

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December 3, 2018 10:33 am  #7


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Welcome Panic.  
I'm so sorry you find yourself here, but you are in good hands. 

Take your time and move forward only when you are ready.  Talking to the kids for example, can be really difficult, so don't rush into it.  

Also, don't be hard on yourself for not always being kind to him.  The depth of the emotional damage our LGBT spouses inflict on us can cause many emotional reactions that are all valid and reasonable.  You should be angry and you have a right to let him know.  

I'm sorry you are stuck in a financial entanglement with him for the time being.  I hope you can find a path forward. 

One recommendation I would make is to consider creating and upholding boundaries in your relationship.  Only you can decide what those boundaries are..  but consider ideas like making him sleep in a different bedroom if you don't want to be around him.  If you want him to stop his activities consider requiring GPS tracking on his phone, access to phone and computer.   If you don't care what he does, then set ground rules to make sure his actions don't infringe on your life and comfort.    If you are not involved in the finances I would strongly recommend you do that immediately.  You need to know that he is not wasting family resources on illicit behaviors (we've seen this way too often here).    One last idea.. you might consider finding one or two attorney's who offer low cost or free initial consultations.  Go meet with them and ask tons of questions and learn everything you can.  Some people who are completely sure they can't divorce due to financial reasons find out there are actually ways to make it work.   It just helps to have more info. 


Best of luck to you.   Please stick around and continue to share and ask questions and talk with us.  We are here for you!


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

December 3, 2018 6:38 pm  #8


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I think you're right not to bring it up to your kids before the holidays.  You might consider actually giving yourself a deadline, though -- pick a date or an event after Christmas, when you can sit them down and be candid with them.

 

 

December 4, 2018 6:45 pm  #9


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I have made an appt. with a therapist for this week and told one friend, who was very supportive and helpful. We definitely will not tell the kids until after New Year's and have to find a way to make it work with us under one roof since we can not afford to separate totally. He does not want to separate at all, but I do, but stuck for now! I will also go to a SSN meeting (an hour away). I think all of this will help. and thank you all again for being here!

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December 4, 2018 9:48 pm  #10


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Hi all,
Well, finally, after 18 years of struggling to stay in the "matrimonial home" with its large pie-shaped back lot, I have decided to sell. The past 18 years of trying to return to the paid work-force with a viable income, have been at the least, frustrating. This is NOT what I expected to be doing at age 61.
My adult children have told me their father has settled in Nice, France, in a relationship with a man. He is in the process of renovating his condominium there.
Selling this house seems the only way to be free of a mortgage, he refinanced/increased it and put the money into his new business (in 1996). Of course, at the time, he didn't tell me that he had "feelings of homosexuality or an attraction to men", I thought his isolating behaviour was due to his being in a "mid-life crisis" at age 40 years.
Panic40, I began seeing a therapist in 1996, and at first, believed I was the crazy one. But after over 20 years, she has been really helping me to get past the lifetime of abuse I have experienced. I realize now, that I married AJ because I was convinced (by my family) that nobody would ever want me. So when he proposed, I didn't dare to decline. I knew I would not be allowed to live with my parents when an adult. I do believe that when I felt loved & appreciated by him, I was at my best....
AJ knew he was not heterosexual before we married; he told me that he spoke to 2 Christian ministers, both of whom told him that with faith he could control his urges. That was the belief until recently. Since then, it has been recognized that sexual preference/orientation is not a choice. 
Since homosexual relationships are no longer illegal, it seems those who entered into heterosexual relationships in order to hide their orientation, are feeling free to leave those relationships. Society now seems to feel compassion for them because they have had to "deny themselves". At the same time, we are the "collateral damage". Yes, I do feel very angry that I was used & abused & cheated for so many years. My future is to be a single woman living below the poverty level, while he gets to enjoy life (Freedom 55) in another country.
 

 

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