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July 9, 2018 5:12 pm  #1


I found more 'stuff'

I'm sorry if I'm posting a lot. This is the only place I can get this garbage off my chest! 
So, my husband left the office early today. I decided to turn on his computer to check the history. I found he's been on a few more hook-up sites and he is also looking at different websites for a f**k machine! I also found in his box of stuff, fishnet g-string with fishnet stockings attached. One of the websites is a place where guys go online to watch each other masterbate. He is CONSTANTLY watching porn. 
Maybe I need to stop looking for stuff. 
I just want my normal life back. I'm tired of being punished! 


“And once the storm is over, you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain, when you come out of the storm, you won’t be the same person who walked in. That’s what this storm’s all about.” ~ Haruki Murakami ~
 
 

July 9, 2018 6:25 pm  #2


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July 9, 2018 6:58 pm  #3


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It's not. I just have to be able to get to that point. I am scared to death.


“And once the storm is over, you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain, when you come out of the storm, you won’t be the same person who walked in. That’s what this storm’s all about.” ~ Haruki Murakami ~
 
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July 9, 2018 7:23 pm  #4


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July 9, 2018 8:10 pm  #5


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Roo,
I love ya girl but wanna shake you too. 
Think of it as a Bandaid that's old and partiially sticking to a wound that can't heal with out air.
You sound as if you are trying to tape the bandaid on even though the adhesive is long gone. 
Rip it off!  You will be fine! 
Maybe one day you'll be so busy enjoying life that doesn't evolve around trying to uncover the smear that's been spread over our eyes enough to see the sun!
Wishing you the best sweetie!


Life is like phases of the moon.... We really only see it when it's beautiful, full and in our face. 
 

July 9, 2018 10:28 pm  #6


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Hi Roo,

when the point came and I am admitting to myself I am scared to death I came up with the idea of breaking it up.  Identifying all the different reasons I was scared and only thinking about them one at a time so I didn't just get overwhelmed.  And it worked for me.   yes I was scared of being on my own and so on, plenty scared, but the most shocking thing was how scared I was of what my spouse would do - I was scared of him!  subconsciously I had a lot of fear around exposing his gayness before I even had any real idea he might be gay.

I was surprised that a lot of the weakness I felt got better quite quickly once I was living away from him.

wishing you the best of luck, Lily

 

July 10, 2018 5:34 am  #7


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Roo,
  Three months out of the house, 3 years/three months from the disclosure.
   I was scared, too.  I'm still scared, actually.  I find the fear manifests even when I am doing things I've done before.  I'm currently on a very long distance solo trip.  But I talk back to my fear: nothing material s different this time; you know the route, you know the stops, and, for heaven's sake, you silly, you know how to drive!  I remind myself of the people I know who I can count on if things go wrong.  
   Lily's advice is good.  Meet fear with reason.  Make a list of all the reasons you're scared, what you're scared of, and then counter them, as best you can, one by one. Scared of not making it financially?  Make a list of all your resources, including people who can help you--with childcare or cast off furniture or a night of babysitting or good advice or job contacts; list the jobs you've had before, the skills and qualities you have that you could offer an employer, schools in the area (community colleges are terrific because they offer job training courses and are affordable); brainstorm how you can leave cheaply as you transition to your new lif--move in with another single mother, look for a live in caregiver arrangement with an older person or a family with children, ask your church (if you have one) and parents (if you can) if you can count on them for whatever help they might provide; see what social services are available to you; ask a lawyer what you're entitled to in support.  Making this list can empower you and help combat your feelings both of helplessness and worthlessness.  
   Make another list of all the reasons you want to leave, and all the things you want in your life that staying with him is keeping you from.  
  I know what it's like to obsessively check for "more stuff."  I think it's a way to assure ourselves that yes, we aren't crazy, and no, he isn't changing.  It helps us see the reality, which makes us face the truth and move toward acceptance, and kill our own hope that it's not true or he'll come to his senses; in that way it can also be a step in the process. You're caught in the cognitive dissonance of, "I know; I don't want to know; I need to know; I don't want it to be true; I need to face the facts." It's crazy making.
     Killing the hope is very very hard.  Believing in ourselves and our ability to live by ourselves can be very very hard, especially when we've been living in an emotionally (or physically) abusive situation. Even now that I am living elsewhere, but still moving things out from the shared residence, sometimes when I am in the house alone I will "peek" where I know he keeps his "equipment"--just to reassure myself that yes, I had to do what I did, and no, he isn't going to magically transform back into the husband I thought I had.  It helps me move forward.  It sounds as if your spouse isn't even trying to hide things any more--and why should he?  He knows what you're willing to tolerate.
    The most important step in leaving is deciding you must.  Once you make that decision, all the objections you've had that seemed insurmountable and like reasons you had to stay become challenges that can be met and managed. 
     If I can add to Lily's advice, break things down into tasks on a "to-do" list, and then start crossing them off.  Every time you cross an item off it boosts and bolsters you.  "Call a lawyer and make an appointment."; "Every time I go grocery shopping, get cash back (even $10 or $20 if that's all you can afford or hide--although it sounds like he's spending a lot on his habit) and stash it for an emergency fund."; go online and look at apartments to see what it would really cost to move out; etc. 
  

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July 10, 2018 9:18 am  #8


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Roo wrote:

I'm sorry if I'm posting a lot. This is the only place I can get this garbage off my chest!  

No worries... this is why this place exists.   We are all here to offer you advice and encouragement and help you move forward. 

Great advice from all who posted above.  I too agree that it's time to make a change in your life and put yourself first.  But I completely understand the paralysis driven by the fear of the unknown. 

As with those above, I'd like to offer some advice to help you with your motivation to move forward: 
To overcome that fear I think you should start to uncover what you consider to be unknown.  To do that, go see a therapist and an attorney.  Start working on your emotional fears with your therapist and your financial and legal fears with the attorney.  Ask lots of questions and start to fill in those unknowns with pictures you can wrap your head around. 

Right now you assume you can't survive financially without him, but it's entirely possible that an attorney could share something you didn't know and maybe paint a picture that is financially viable.  

You just have to figure out how to overcome the fear, and if the major fear is the unknown.. start filling it in with facts and estimates and make things known. 
 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

July 10, 2018 5:14 pm  #9


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Thank you everyone! Luckily we have no children. I would hate to put them through something like this. We do have a business together, which it's not doing the greatest because it's the summer. I also have my side business that I am working really hard at. Then maybe, I could be a bit  more financially independent. All this has added a whole lot more stress. I can't sleep and today my stomach hurts so bad and my face feels like it's on fire but I don't have a fever. 
It's all so complicated...but whose situation isn't that is going through this crap. 
I have reached out to several lawyers via their website, asking if this is a type of case they could deal with but I've not heard back from anyone yet. 
Love you guys! You are my only support at the moment. 


“And once the storm is over, you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain, when you come out of the storm, you won’t be the same person who walked in. That’s what this storm’s all about.” ~ Haruki Murakami ~
 
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July 11, 2018 7:04 pm  #10


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Roo, is it possible for you to work from home? That way when your spouse is at the office you could stay home. It is just, for me, I do so much better when I don't have contact with my STBX. Working with my spouse on a daily basis would be very hard. 

Basically, I would just try to find a way to put some space between the 2 of you.

Stay strong.

 

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