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April 10, 2018 10:04 pm  #11


Re: Roller coaster of emotions...

Pardon the long post, but it's been a horrific last few days, What a chain of events since my last post. 
My husband & I were never ones to fight during our marriage. I can count on one hand how many times we did. That I see now was a result of him avoiding conflict and I feeling insecure. I am struggling to deal with the anger inside of me that wants to believe he is a selfish, self-absorbed man who believes he has freed himself to live a life he suppressed all of these years. In a recent conversation with him and my counselor & then our children, he was very forthcoming in his desire to be with a man completely and that he did not feel I deserved anything less than a man that could give himself to me completely. He continually tries to speak for me, which is his own guilt talking. Perhaps its a coping mechanism to deal with his own guilt. I can't even trust it's really about what he feels I deserve. His lies he has told me repeatedly over the years now scorch me like a blazing fire deep inside my heart. He even admitted that there are many people for whom he came out to at work nearly 10 years ago...i was shocked & am humiliated to know that these people know me & question what they must think of the dumb blonde who didn't know their husband was gay.
After admitting to ourselves that there would be no reconciliation of our marriage last Thursday at a counseling visit, we agreed to at least reconcile a friendship. The counselor said that it was evident we both loved one another by our emotions spent during the visit. She said it was necessary to be there for one another in the initial stage while recovering from the emotions that may overcome us. I asked my husband as a friend if he would move in with me for a week or two...to help console me during the expected emotional breakdowns and help him with attaining the right resources for support moving forward. He agreed without coercion  however that one & only evening apparently bothered him so much, that he was unable to work the following day & got drunk. I had no idea how anxious he was that day as he did not convey anything was wrong when i texted him during the day. 
He again, as he has always done, hid behind his feelings & didn't tell me how he was feeling. Instead told my daughter he intended on leaving that very next evening...and so it began, putting my daughter & everyone she told,
in a panic that I would revisit that "DARK" place that caused me to question if it was worth living just weeks before. WHY CAN'T HE JUST BE HONEST WITH ME???? I really question whether he doesn't know what he wants himself. I wish he would just let me go...not continue to say & do things that give me that glimmer of hope that he will want me back again. 
Not knowing we both had made a decision that staying under the same roof would not be in either of our best interests on Friday, my husband left work due to anxiety & got drunk. When I called him to tell  him I needed to talk to him (to tell him I realized that by asking him to stay was wrong & to tell him not to involve our children in what should be OUR conversations), he drove to the house & arrived drunk & angry. So irate  that he was physical to push me twice when I attempted to stop him from leaving to drive, not to mention the very HARSH words he said to me. "I've been jumping through hoops for you; I'm done; How dare I tell him not to talk to his kids".
After meeting with him the following day with my children to discuss how his poor judgement to drink & drive under such conditions must never happen, as none of us could ever live with his death should that result, it hit me....Our relationship as I knew it  was definitely over"and the hopes to maintain a good friendship was definitely questioned, having heard his true feelings while under the influence the night before. I thought I had experienced pain in the beginning....The pain that I suffered that evening was 10 fold. NEVER in my life had I cried so much or as hard as I did that night. Even a full mg of xanax could not calm the emotions pouring out of me. 
Now I remain angry. Angry why he could tell others & not me. He even told our eldest daughter (she came out when she was 12), that he was gay without my knowledge. I think as her parent there should have been consideration to include me. He continues to try to speak with her as if she can relate being gay herself. Difference is, she was honest with herself & us from the beginning. She didn't take the cowardly route my husband took...one that ultimately has left me in pieces that I don't know how to put back together. 
Ironic Phoenix, that your response with regards to not overwhelming myself was just told to me by my sister today, whom I cried to in desperation for answers to make my pain just go away. As much as living in the home my husband & I built & spent many hours to make our own is reminding me of him, I must allow myself time to heal from these intense wounds before being consumed on getting it ready to sell. 
Thank you all for your support & guidance. I hope to one day give back in the future to those who are in the same place as I am today...Deeply saddened & uncertain as to what my future holds. Goodbye for now.
                

 

April 10, 2018 11:18 pm  #12


Re: Roller coaster of emotions...

No worries about making a long post.  It's really good for you to process and then release these words.  it's great therapy!

Your anger is absolutely justified.  Don't feel bad for being angry.  But anger is a powerful emotion so I would advise that you harness that power.  Left unbridled, it can cause damage to yourself and other relationships that matter to you.  But, if you harness that anger, it's a tremendous motivation that will push you toward your goal and help you heal faster.  Channel it, funnel it, let it propel you forward. 

You are seeing something in your STBX (Soon to be ex) that I saw all too much of in my own.  His erratic behavior, anger, and drunkenness stems from deep shame.  Now that he sees first hand how much he's hurting you, he is horribly ashamed of himself.  He will never admit that of course..  But when he see's how much pain you are in and he knows that he is the sole cause of that pain, it's ripping him up inside.  Unfortunately he won't apologize to you and care for you.  Instead, the way he will deal with that shame is to try to make up ways to deflect the blame to you.  I had a great therapist who told me in advance that this was likely. When it happened and my ex made up some ridiculous reasons to try to place blame on me.. I actually laughed at her.  It did hurt.. but I knew why she was saying those things and I was able to easily brush it off.   This is why you can't expect him to be there to console you and help you..  it's causing him too much shame.  He lacks the fortitude and maturity to deal with that shame like a man.  So he's going to drink and hide and then if cornered he will blame you. 

I'm so glad you have your sister and others as a support network.  Too many of us try to walk this road alone because we think we owe secrecy to our spouse.  Good for you!  

You will be here to give back to others when you are ready.. but don't worry about that now.  

Batten down those hatches and ride out the worst of the storm by being kind to yourself.  If you need to release the anger, do it with focus to move you forward.  If you need to cry.. do it without shame and let those tears seep away the hurt and pain.  Don't stress about the future.  Handle only the things you need to handle today.  Those things you are worried about months or years down the road can wait until later, so don't waste your time or energy stressing about them now.  

Let's not say "Goodbye"..  let's say "talk to you later".      If you need help, please reach out.  


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

April 11, 2018 6:26 am  #13


Re: Roller coaster of emotions...

Great reply Phoenix.

Uncertain..  your one sentence before the arguement;  ". I asked my husband as a friend if he would move in with me for a week or two...to help console me during the expected emotional breakdowns.."   is something, as you saw,  they cannot do anymore.     They cannot be both tyrant and counselor  or , in your case,  both friend and abuser/hurter.     It hit me one day as I was texting my GX  and I realized I was sending texts to the person that was hurting me...and she in a sick and morally despicable way was trying to play both abuser and comforter..    Its like texting the murderer of your child for comfort.

We will never know how they can hurt us so much and sleep at night.. yours seems to have some shame/guilt   ...mine had none which made her evil and scary...    but ..they cannot stop or change.   The best we can do is get away...I think you can see that now..     Please take care of your self and kid and practice no contact..   yes  he can have contact with the kid but not you.. You need to protect yourself from the hurt he is so capable of inflicting on you without effort or thought.     You need to be sane and stable for your kid and if that means jettisoning him than that is what you must do..     I commend you for the counseling and trying to fix or keep things together...but I think you saw when one person does not want the marriage   the other cannot hold it together.. these spouses have a rationality or morality  that defies rational logic and pure love from us.    Cry, mourn,   but  do what needs to be done for yourself and kid.

Wishing you strength, fortitude, and stoicism ...


"For we walk by faith, not by sight .."  2Corinthians 5:7
 

April 12, 2018 4:09 pm  #14


Re: Roller coaster of emotions...

I understand being on the roller coaster of emotions. I have great sadness. I have accepted the marriage I thought I had, I don’t. And the man I thought I married is not who I thought he was. I realize my life is now going to be different. But Acceptance has helped me move forward. Everyday I go from sadness, to anger, and the pain is unbearable. I wake up every morning believing it was just a nightmare but then reality hits me , TGT is real. It takes every bit of energy I gather to just get out of bed. I am holding onto Hope, and praying I can get my happiness back. I can’t solve my GIDH issues, I can let go of that, that is his garbage. So I just focus on me , I am responsible for me and my happiness. Hopefully this roller coaster ride will end soon. I wish you the best, you are going to be OK,.

 

April 12, 2018 11:38 pm  #15


Re: Roller coaster of emotions...

Cindy, I'm sorry to hear you are going through such a hard time. I have found comfort in reading the posts on this site. There is so much support from those just like us...those who have had our hearts broken by a spouse who kept a deep dark secret from us. It certainly isn't fair. Despite differences in paths we take, we all share a common bond. Our hearts have been broken by someone we loved and for some of us, that spouse continues to love us, which can make moving forward difficult. Hang in there. Continue to seek support from this website. We are here for you.
As for me. Every day gets a little better, now that I'm not talking to JS. (Phoenix says to think of him as my ex-husband). I can't move on with him while in this emotional state. I kept moving backwards. I'm blessed to have financial security, a home, a job and a great support of family & friends. It has just taken me a while to start believing in my inner strength to see past what I have lost & what I have to gain from this. As Phoenix said in a way that resonates with me on a daily basis, we all need to just get past those dark clouds. Where there is sunshine & calm waters. It is there we will find peace. 
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April 13, 2018 11:46 pm  #16


Re: Roller coaster of emotions...

Ughhhh! I'm so sick & tired of the tears & pain. Its been nearly 2 months since my husband met the man he is now with. A man who is shamelessly posting all over his social media page how in wonderful it is to be with the man that belonged to me for over 30 years.  Celebrating 1 month anniversaries & posting pictures of the 2 of them smiling, while I cry daily over the pain it is causing me. How dare he tell me how his anxiety with this process has left him devastated too. I'M THE ONE WITHOUT THE SMILING PICTURES OF A NEW RELATIONSHIP, PICTURES OF CELEBRATING MILESTONESS....And it kills me to see that my husband keeps his "married" relationship on his page & my pictures throughout. How dare he? He doesn't deserve to have that right. I can't wait for him to sign the marriage settlement agreement that gives me what i deserve from this marriage. A house for which my father contributed $150k to, my 401K for which i contributed my entire 30 year career to invest, with my money...all while paying the bills for over 10 years solo so he could try to have his own business. A business where he failed & used drugs & had his 1st encounter to betray a promise he made to me. My support systems tell me I'm strong & to use this anger towards healing & yet the deep pain I feel inside continues to haunt me on a regular basis. I can't take it much longer. I want to scream at him & tell him he is the lying bastard he is, and never want to see him & could care less if he dies in a ditch, all at the same time. I'm trying to do things for myself. See the sunrise, garden, get my hair done...for those moments, the pain hides. It never truly goes away. It seems to re-surface more furiously when it returns. He walked away from any responsibilities here...left everything for me to take care of. Told me to call him if I needed anything. Help with the house, $$....SERIOUSLY????  That makes me more dependent on him. Is this what they do? Does it make him feel more like a man? I am disgusted with myself that I didn't see it. The cheating...the lies...the desire to be with one another along the way. Another lie on his part I suppose. I am embarrassed that I'm in no control over my inner strength to see beyond all this long enough to get over him for good.  How can I still hate him & yet want him back? Is it the thought of what was? 

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