General Discussion » Dating Advice » September 19, 2023 8:28 am |
Hey - I am so sorry you are having that experience. I suppose I was lucky, in the sense I dated a few high quality women, both of whom were divorced and understood, at least to some degree, what I had/been through. Then, I re-met someone I knew from high school over 30 years ago. She was divorced, relatively same timeline. We just hit it off and now have been dating for 6+ months. I did not know I could experience joy, having been in a very non reciprocal relationship for over 20 years with a woman who had used me/lied to me from day 1. My point in sharing this is; when you find your person, they will understand and will provide you with reassurance...often. Mine does because she knows I need it, but also because I tell her when I need it. I am vocal about what I want and need, she is the same and its wonderful.
I dont know the timing, but for me, it timed up when I decided to NOT date anymore. I found her almost by accident. I think because my mindset had changed; I did not need to date, I was fine by myself and I attracted someone with a similar thought process.
Good luck - do not settle. If they ghost, they were not a good fit anyway.
General Discussion » Trying to understand the confusion » September 18, 2023 5:13 pm |
Agree with Rob. At least in my case. Mine said "she swore" she just starting figuring this out. I think she knew all along, chose specifically to NOT deal with her own feelings and as a result, broke the home of 3 daughters and confused the hell out of them. Not her being gay, but suddenly being gay after 42 years of being straight. (or the duration of their life). I have no problem with any gay folks. To me, its simple, a cheater is a cheater, and one that would lie and gaslight me like she did, is not a good person. Nothing to do with orientation and everything to do with their moral code.
General Discussion » Good relationship » September 7, 2023 6:46 pm |
You have lots of great advice. I wish you luck! Sounds like she is being honest, didn't cheat on you, lie to you and disrespect you. If true, then she really does value the relationships, because HER ACTIONS match the words. Keep watching the actions, they tell all. I hope it works out for you man, definitely agree though, feel it all, do not do anything to numb it, doing so gets you through it faster because you deal with it vs. bury it.
Support » Betrayal Trauma, Narcissism, and Bi(?) Husband...so many layers. » September 7, 2023 6:23 pm |
Ellexoh_nz wrote:
I have been through the period of gas-lighting, narcissistic attitude and denial. And the counseling. And the insistence that he loved me and couldn't imagine not having me in his life
So true. MY ex wife said the same all of the time in the beginning. After lying constantly, she still does and gets absolutely furious when I call her out on it....only thing that matters is actions, not words. She told me she wanted me and our family, but her actions said otherwise, so did he lies. Once I got away from her, it became crystal clear that my 19 year marriage was always a sham, at least to her and I am grateful to get out when I did.
I am not saying you need to do that too, but a lifetime of lying does not bode well for the future....
General Discussion » How to Healthily Move On » September 2, 2023 6:54 pm |
Hey Anon - I understand completely. My ex wife is not a good person for me and I dont believe she is good in general. That said, who cares? People tell me that while she is putting on a front that she is happy, they say they think she is miserable. You know what I think? I am indifferent. I reached a point where if her being happy or sad, it made no difference to me.
How did I do that? I focused entirely on myself and my kids. I am 43, but just over a year ago, when this started for me officially, I began working out daily, eating better, meditating, got back into therapy. Now, a year later? I look ridiculously good, cut up (for a desk jockey), met a woman I went to high school with and started dating 6 months ago and am building a healthy relationship, strengthening my relationships with my kids and have never been happier.
This isnt to say I havent been hosed. I have. I worked my way out of near poverty, worked while she earned a phd and supporter her opening up her own practice. Despite this, I will be losing half of everything I have earned in 24 years. All the things I wanted to do will have to wait, not because I did anything wrong, but because my ex is a lying sack of shit who never keeps her word and thinks its my job to care for her and her new girlfriend (not even the affair girlfriend, but another one) and her kid. I could focus on that, but I do not.
Live your life. The more you focus on you and what makes you happy, the happier you will be despite all of the bullshit. Not easy, but I promise you it can be done. You are stronger than you realize.
Be well, keep moving forward
Is He/She Gay » HELP: Wife Unsure if She’s Curious/Bi/Lesbian » August 26, 2023 7:38 pm |
Scared - I am sorry you are having to go through this. I was in a similar position a little over a year ago. My then wife of 19 years, 23 together, told me she had been having an emotional affair for over 4 months with a woman at the gym, but that she had not acted on it. I believed her when she said she was confused, had recently brought up some sexual trauma from childhood that she "wasn't sure about". She said nearly the same thing, she wasn't sure....
About 3-4 weeks after disclosure, I discovered she had been lying, repeatedly. She swore she had told me everything, but she did not. Then she started to tell me bits a pieces, but never the whole truth. Then she got angry with me for wanting to discuss it. I ended the sham before we even got to our 2nd couples therapy...because I knew it would only work if both parties were trying...she was not. My story is long and twisted, she claims she is gay now (but has an online profile where she exclusively looks for men) I believe this is just more manipulation to avoid accepting responsibility for having an affair and destroying her own kids lives.
Has your wife had surgery? Hysterectomy? Hormone changes? That may be a part of it. What I discovered was that she had been the source of my anxiety for the duration of the time we were together. She lies with great ease, even when presented with hard evidence and nothing is, or ever has been her fault. She is a perpetual victim. Now if you go back to my first post here, it said none of these things. I was still justifying everything and living the same way I had been, happily ignorant/yet miserable.
I am not saying this is the case for you. The best advice I can give, do NOT pay any attention to ANYTHING she says, only what she DOES. That will tell you all you need to know about how she feels. Gay or not, actions always speak louder and if she is confused AND wants to work through it, she will do that with you. (or at least keep you informed) Mine kept me in the dark,
Is He/She Gay » Help » August 24, 2023 11:31 am |
So sorry MireP. Sadly common. I tried to be a "good partner" to my lying, narc of a wife. She simply took advantage of it, used it as an opportunity to start coming home drunk/high (waking the kids, being loud, inappropriate, etc). She also starting sneaking people into the house through a window (when she could easily have just driven to this person's house). She was/is a 42 year old, PhD level educated, child. Sounds like you are married to one as well.
Despite you being accommodating, a child only thinks of themself. My ex is exactly the same 1+ year later, I don't think they change. Sean (a gay man, who posts here alot about his actions as a gay man married to ma woman) talks about this "coming out later in life childish streak. Says its fairly common among gay men living a lie. I would read his information, he is candid yet kind.
Be well, I know it's blown your entire reality up. I was there a year ago. Now? Life has never been better (even though I have to take her to court because after all of this she still refused to sign the divorce papers). You will make it, just know it takes time and is a journey.
Is He/She Gay » Gay, Trauma Reenactment, Sex Addiction??? » August 23, 2023 6:56 pm |
Sorry to read this Aly. I have to agree though. Pretty sure he is gay, but that, at least in my view is not the point. The point is you believe you have a wonderful life with someone.....that has been lying to your face every single moment of every single day for 14 years. I learned the hard way, 24 years in, to pay NO attention to words, only actions. They tell you everything you need to know.
I suspect this is painful to read. I am not saying you need to abandon him completely. However, I tried to stay friends with my lesbian ex wife, but quickly found she loved it, because it enabled her to continue using me, while she continued to provide nothing to the relationship. I read my first post here, posted about a year ago. Nearly identical to yours, not the story, but my feelings and thoughts about "my great relationship" with my then wife.
A year later? I no longer suffer any anxiety. I am down 35 lbs, mentally and physically healthier than I have ever been, my career is soaring now and I am in a committed healthy relationship. You don't have to set yourself on fire to save him, he is a grown man, thats his job.
I wish you the best. I know how hard this is, but you can and will make it. Day at a time. Decide for yourself, at your own speed. Be well
Support » Trans Women Husband » August 7, 2023 5:48 pm |
So sorry Lightingirl - It's an awful experience, its invalidating, painful, on some days will take your breath away. I have been there. I am exactly 1 year out from discovery and I can share with certainty, I am a new person entirely. Initially I felt I lost 24 years of my life with someone I loved very much. And in some regards, I did. That said, I am healthy for the first time in my adult life I can leave the house without xanax. I have been dating a wonderful woman from my high school who I did not talk with for about 25-30 years. Life is good. It will take care, and I encourage you to do what seems impossible, face every emotion and live in it. The only way to the other side is through the pain.
If you can, and I KNOW you can, the other side is beautiful. It does not erase your past, but provides a blueprint for the future. Hang in there, early days are tough. It does get better. I improved exponentially once I went very low contact with her, I had to protect my own mental health. You do the same. Its YOU time
Support » My GID Husband doesn't want to tell our children » August 7, 2023 12:46 pm |
Good for you. You should tell them. I agree if you can do it together its best. I tried that, my narc ex wife went ahead and did it on her own without me, lord knows what she told them, I never asked. Mine kept saying it was "her story to tell" and even tried to stop me from telling my own mother. I told her she lost her fucking mind if she thought she could dictate to me, what I do and dont tell my own mom. Its your story, he put you in the middle of it and sounds to me like he does not want any responsibility for it. Familiar.
I am sorry you have to go through this, but do tell the kids in an appropriate way without assigning blame. They will do that on their own over time, they know more than you think....