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- Whirligig
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Re: Gaslighting-What it is, Who has experienced it...
Hi Gonzo,
Sadly, I too experienced gaslighting from a family member growing up. I think it conditions you to accept it as 'normal' when you come across it again later in life.
I've also come to believe my last relationship which lasted for several years may have been with someone who was GID. And I thought my most recent interest was a really good match! What's wrong with my picker?! It's truly demoralizing to realize that you have embraced the initial lie which then sets you up for all the rest of the lies to cover it up. Why couldn't I see it when I've 'bought the T-shirt' before? I'm so sorry he was terrible to you. I just hope I've learned my lesson this time around. Being color blind with red flags isn't an option for me anymore.
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Thank you to all of you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. From what I am seeing, I do not think it was done to me all that much. Perhaps some. I don’t know if he realized what he was doing. Hard to know, and probably won’t ever know.
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Re: Gaslighting-What it is, Who has experienced it...
I'll tell you one incident in my house.
My daughter comes home from college over spring break. She goes to get into her bed, throws back the covers, and there's a condom wrapper in her bed.
Gaslighting is when you pretend you have absolutely no clue how that got there. It means the other people who live in the house have to fill in the blanks in this story in a way that could possibly make sense: that the house is unsafe, that strangers crept in, that some flooring contractors who were working here sneaked into the room ... you want to see a poor innocent kit scared of her own shadow? Because to a teenager, their bedroom is sacred. Their bedrooms are sanctuaries, and the idea that someone can come in and defile your bed without your knowing it, is horrifying.
I accused the flooring contractors, because they were the only possible explanation -- even though there were logistical issues that made it a really improbable explanation.
They, being wrongfully accused as we now know, in turn accused my daughter of having sex and then lying about it.
Most fathers, knowing their daughter was being wrongfully maligned about things as sensitive as that, would have spoken up for her. My husband probably figured he was home free: everybody suspects that little brat!
Classic gaslighting.
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- ByHisWounds
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Re: Gaslighting-What it is, Who has experienced it...
I saw this video and I chucked them I identified with it too much.
One of the worst realities I am coming to realize as I try to focus on a new life after TGT is that I feel like I have lost confidence and trust in myself.
How was is so blinded before and if I was so blinded before? How can I completely trust myself or someone else in the future?
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“To be loved but not known is comforting but superficial. To be known and not loved is our greatest fear. But to be fully known and truly loved is, well, a lot like being loved by God. It is what we need more than anything. It liberates us from pretense, humbles us out of our self-righteousness, and fortifies us for any difficulty life can throw at us.”
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Re: Gaslighting-What it is, Who has experienced it...
Most fathers, knowing their daughter was being wrongfully maligned about things as sensitive as that, would have spoken up for her. My husband probably figured he was home free: everybody suspects that little brat!
Hi walkbymyself,
Your poor daughter, I hope she has realized her father was the culprit and has forgiven you. I can well imagine how violated she must have felt. What a COWARD her father was.
I often wonder if my adult children have avoided committing themselves to long-term relationships because of the violation of trust they witnessed between their parents. My son had a girl who, I am sure, genuinely cared for him. After 7 years of dating, he broke off the relationship, after living together for a few months.... I had noticed he wasn't treating her with the respect she deserved.
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Re: Gaslighting-What it is, Who has experienced it...
In my experience it has been changing the past, BW claims conversations never happened, people change, etc.
The one gaslighting that stands out to me was a conversation where my wife admitted to being by about 13 years ago.
Originally it was "I messed around with Liz when we started dating. It was only for a while, and when we got serious I broke it off with Liz." Which turned into "Liz was just a friend, I never did anything with her. Why are you so angry that I still have her phone number?" Now she admits that Liz was more than a friend, but still doesn't remember telling me about Liz 13 years ago.
- Leah
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Re: Gaslighting-What it is, Who has experienced it...
OH that Doris Day slap is hilarious!!! And the lengths these people go to to deflect are incredible. Here is my take on Gaslighting for Beginners complete with a definition - the link below will take you to it - written for your reading pleasure....and to discharge my considerable angst at 27 years of it!!! With big kudos and credit to Kel whose analogies she wrote about here a few years ago.
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