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August 27, 2018 8:26 pm  #11


Re: what is going on here?

Lily, with respect: it doesn't matter whether she saw him dressed as a woman before she married him.  Even if she had, she didn't have a full understanding or the experience of the way his behavior would demean and undermine her as a woman.  

 

August 27, 2018 8:44 pm  #12


Re: what is going on here?

Soconfused, my STBX is also trans. When she came out to me, she said that she had bought things and purged them routinely during our 20+ year marriage/relationship. Apparently, it is quite common, too. They buy things and dress up, and something happens - either moral/religious convictions or realize they just can't go out in public, etc., and they decide to "purge" everything and deny they urges that caused the dressing in the first place. 

But yes, absolutely protect yourself. Find out the laws in your state and take action. Surgeries, drugs, and clothing can all add up, and you could find your joint accounts slipping away. 

Stay Strong

 

August 28, 2018 6:04 am  #13


Re: what is going on here?

OutofHisCloset wrote:

Lily, with respect: it doesn't matter whether she saw him dressed as a woman before she married him.  Even if she had, she didn't have a full understanding or the experience of the way his behavior would demean and undermine her as a woman.  

The question I was addressing was in effect 'why do I feel grossed out when I see him dressed up, when I don't feel like that about my friends'.

imo answering questions is all to the good but it's when you answer your own question that it really helps.  So, after giving my answers, I took to pinpointing something concrete like did I actually see him dressed up or was it all talk.  and if I did see him how did I feel about it back then,  This can be helpful in finding your own answers.  It was not intended in any other way.

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August 28, 2018 6:56 am  #14


Re: what is going on here?

Lily,
   Thanks for clarifying, and I'm sorry that I misinterpreted the motivation for your question.  I over-reacted because I thought you were saying, in effect, something like "if you knew about his cross dressing all these years why are you bothered by it now?"  I jumped to a conclusion out of defensiveness, and I'm sorry I imputed those motives to you--I should know you better by now and react with more trust and generosity.
   I had the reaction of being grossed out by my husband's aping of woman, too, and I think that it was due to this: when I thought my husband was "just dressing up" and "just acting out a gender bending fantasy" I continued to see him as my husband, male, and I could go along with it.  The farther along he got, the more delusional, the more he inhabited his new persona, the more "trans" he got, maybe you could say, and the less "male," the less he was my "husband" and the more he was just my "spouse" (I was never going to be ok with him calling himself my "wife," even if he had every surgery known to man , the odder and odder and more grotesque the whole thing seemed.  
  

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August 28, 2018 2:09 pm  #15


Re: what is going on here?

thanks OOHC, that is such a nice response.

I think there's this pretty basic thing going on, cross-dressing or not, and that to use an old fashioned phrase is animal magnetism.

Attraction or repulsion.  Who would have thought that you could successfully hide that!

For all the confusion I experienced for so many years, it was seeing him go all pink and girly, consciously seeing that my gidex wanted to attract men that clarified things and even tho we hadn't had sex for years it affected me viscerally, I found myself having waves of feeling horribly sick, grossed out is exactly right, it lasted for weeks. 

Better out than in, I reckon. 

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August 28, 2018 5:19 pm  #16


Re: what is going on here?

Thank you all. It helps so much to be understood. 

I've thought a lot about why I'm grossed out, and I think it might be a mix of both sexual repulsion, and being confused/repelled by the dishonesty. He might be trans. He might not. It feels more like trying to run from something I don't know about. It feels so phony. 

Being lied to is confusing. I'm honest, not perfect, but honest, and I keep being surprised by his lies. Not my mind, I know enough to suspect lies. But my heart is taken off guard. He seems sincerely sorry when we do talk.  I think maybe he is, at least he thinks he is in whatever box in his mind he is in at the moment. But then he goes to another box and it's all gone. 

Why is it so hard to let go? How do I do that?

I've been reading other posts. The one by Addie01, asking if it's ok to be kind and caring, is what I feel. I care about my husband. When we talk I feel connected. I read the advice from OHC and Kel, and it really strikes home. Can I quote from different threads on this thread?  

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August 28, 2018 6:12 pm  #17


Re: what is going on here?

You may quote from any thread you like!

 I know that feeling of compartmentalized responses so very well!  One day it's all solicitous "kindness eases change," and the next it's cold discard.

  It takes time to let go.  Time and distance.  Being lied to and discarded, feeling that your spouse has cast you off, it's hard. You feel the loss of your past, your future, and you second guess and question yourself. At my lowest I thought I was such a bad woman my husband didn't even want to be a man.  That's how traumatizing this whole thing is.  For me, the way he treated me from the time he disclosed his belief in his transness was the key: he was so unbelievable selfish, could not empathize or understand what he was putting me through or asking of me, and was unbelievably cold and nasty, turned on a dime and was willing to see me as the enemy, despite how much I'd extended myself in trying to accommodate myself to the changed circumstances.  
 But never forget this: it's on him.  It's all on him.  You are no doubt blaming yourself or asking of yourself what your spouse would never ask or expect of himself.  For him, it's all about what he wants. And your role is not as partner, but as prop or something to be used to accomplish what he wants.  

 

August 29, 2018 12:14 am  #18


Re: what is going on here?

I do feel like a prop. His needs, his wants, are what counts, more than the marriage, more than any feelings he has for me. Addiction sounds right. Still hurts though. I guess I just need to keep reading and try to realize other people have made it through this and I will too. Eventually. 

It's true, I am expecting more of myself than he would ever ask of himself. I haven't asked that much of him, definitely less than what I ask of myself, but apparently not even close to what he wants from me. I gave him honesty, loyalty, love, commitment. He gave me lies, self centeredness and not much commitment, way less than he promised when we married.  What is up with that? Male socialization means no responsibilities? Male is probably the wrong word there, I'm sure there are men who are honest and loyal can can commit. Wish I had one of those. 

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