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January 3, 2017 9:56 am  #1


Hoping for support

I am not looking for judgement or criticism, but I am hoping to talk with people who understand what I am going through and feeling.

My husband and I have been together for 3 years.  From the beginning he has known that I personally have bisexual tendencies, I admitted this to him in the initial stages of our relationship as I knew this is the man I wanted to spend my life with. There were no questions.  I do not need to be with a woman, as he fulfills me in all ways as a lover and friend.

I had my suspicions, in the beginning, that perhaps he also had bisexual feelings and SSA. I presented many opportunities for him to admit this to me, but I believe he was afraid I would leave him, which I would never have.

Flash forward to last week, I found on his phone that he had been on the craiglist casual encounters for M4M. He looked at many of these, from General to trans. I immediately at this moment felt betrayed, I started heaving and having an immediate panic attack.

He admits to having looked at this specifically over the last 8 months, but denies ever cheating on me. Porn, I can understand, but would a man actually only look at CL encounters and never act on it? It all just hurts so much and seems unreal.

I know that he loves me, that has NEVER been a doubt in my mind. Physically, he becomes very aroused by me even when we just hug! Our sex life is good, He has said that he will stop (of course), and that he is 100 percent committed to making our marriage work.

I feel like I have no right to judge him on who he is attracted to, after all, I am in the same boat. I just can't help but feel very deceived, especially since I so freely opened up to him on who I am. But, I have never even considered the idea of being with ANYONE but him.

He says he has never acted on these urges, but after all of this dishonesty, how do I believe him?

This man is my world, the only person I've ever truly loved, and I am committed to making this work but I am beyond scared by all of the "what ifs".

I just never imagined I would be here. I keep going from being "ok" to angry, to balling my eyes out.

Any support would help.

 

January 3, 2017 10:55 am  #2


Re: Hoping for support

Welcome hopeful10. I am new here too. I understand your situation somewhat. From what you have said he is turned on by you and loves you. I would suggest you choose to believe him .

I think our society makes it harder for men to admit a ssa than women. Its cool and mainstream to have 2 women "fooling around" in movies etc. Its touted as most mens fantasy. Where as most women would not want to watch 2 men especially if they were in a relationship with one of them.

He may simply be curious and not have contacted anyone. If you are attacking and suspicious it wont help your relationship. Love on him as much as you can. If he is guilty it will come out. If is not he will be relieved you forgive him and you will be his safe place.

Sounds like you have something worth fighting for.  Many dont. Yes it hurts but try to forgive and trust because its worth the risk .
My 2cents
Take care.

 

January 3, 2017 11:43 am  #3


Re: Hoping for support

I think the SSA issue is just confusing things.  I suggest taking a step back and analyzing the nature of your relationship without any SSA influence.  

You are both in a monogamous committed marriage.  You both took vows to love each other for better or worse, good times and bad..  only each other.  You both expect monogamy.  You both expect honesty.  If you have these items I think you can agree that your relationship is fine, regardless of whether or not there are SSA issues for either of you.  If you think he's cheating on you, then you have a problem, and it doesn't really matter if it's a male or female that he is cheating with.  

Start at square one.  Reaffirm the status of your relationship with him.  Let him know that you have concerns and trust issues about this situation of him looking at hookup websites.  If he truly has no interest, then he will stop doing it, AND he will agree to allow you to look at his phone or computer history whenever you wish.  If he's committed to you, he will not request privacy or make a big deal out of you asking.  

While I fully support your desire to stay married and fix things, I would encourage you to consider one rather eye-opening topic - your health.   We have seen way too often on this site where the closeted gay husband goes out and has flings with other men in secret and they wind up bringing home STD's to their wife.  A number of women on this forum have this horrible gift.   Please consider getting tested, asking him to get tested, or perhaps abstaining from sex for a while until you are positive that there is no risk here.  I just don't want to see you jeopardize your health. 


Good luck with everything.   Please keep us posted and feel free to vent, journal, cry, or express yourself on this forum in any way you wish. 

 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

January 9, 2017 4:57 pm  #4


Re: Hoping for support

Hello Hopeful. It sounds like you and I are in very similar boats. I recently found out my fiancé has been meeting up with men he met off Craigslist. When I first discovered the emails, he insisted that it was all talk and he had never gone through with it. He told me that he would never cheat on me and that he loved me and only wanted me. I found more emails and I asked him and begged him to tell me if he ever met up with these men and he told me he never went through with it, he always flaked out. A few days later I found more emails that discussed meeting up but no other details. I confronted him and pretended I found an email that stated that he had met with another man and slept with him.... Among other things. He finally admitted it, only because he thought I really knew. I have kicked him out and told him to stay more times than I can count. Some moments I feel like I can handle it and others, I feel like my heart might explode. I love him so much, but everyday is a constant tuggawar with myself. I don't know how much long I can hold on. I really hope your situation gets better.

 

January 9, 2017 5:04 pm  #5


Re: Hoping for support

Put your foot down now. If your marriage is what you want, tell him this can NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! I would make it clear as to what would happen if it does. There should be no secrets within a marriage whatsoever. You were open and honest with him and that is worth noting. You deserve the same in return. Don't settle for anything less.

 

January 18, 2017 6:48 am  #6


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Craigslist. Mine used it like he had an addiction for hookups. I think that website is fueling STD's. I looked at it when i found out and at least half of the M4M hookup invites SAID they were married.  All of those wives are unsuspecting and going to get a nasty surprise in the form of an STD.

 

January 18, 2017 6:50 am  #7


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Broken,
Don't keep trying. I did that for 46 years. I ended up in the same place - divorced - but my life is gone at 66. 

Don't think anything or anyone can alter the driving force of their sexuality. This isn't something that will never change.  Be smarter than I was. Get out now.

Judy

Last edited by Judy (January 18, 2017 6:05 pm)

 

January 18, 2017 10:30 am  #8


Re: Hoping for support

Things are going much better. He seems to have re-committed himself to our relationship and we've been placing a very large focus on each other and most importantly lots of communication. Loads of communication, over communication probably lol. Looking back, he has never wavered in showing evidence of his love for me physically or emltionally.  Therapy has helped me to realize that I am actually a very lucky woman.

I am thinking that if anything, what happened may have been a blessing in disguise.  We are each other's best friend's, and this has opened up new levels of trust and communication about our needs that were missing that we didn't even realize were missing.

I cannot live in fear or what ifs or I may lose my mind!

The porn thing has become no longer acceptable, for either of us.  Conversations about including others into our relationship are no longer going to happen and we are committing to focusing on each other and talking through our desires if and when they come up.  Looking back much of this is my fault, I began conversations about including others in our relationship sexually a few years ago and we began exploring (not acting) on the ideas. I am a very sexual person LOL.  This led both of us down a bad path where somewhere we lost each other a little. He is not entirely to blame.

I am Hopeful this is all for the best and thank each one of you for your kind words and thoughts.

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January 18, 2017 6:08 pm  #9


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Hopeful,

He's gas lighting you to stay in this situation. I know this isn't what you want to hear and I'm sorry for telling you but it's the truth. This wasn't just a big fight between you and he's no longer your best friend either. It will resurface over and over and over. So many of us lived just like you are. You are in my prayers.

Judy

 

January 19, 2017 8:24 am  #10


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Judy,

I entirely understand what gaslighting is. I've been in an abusive relationship before where I literally felt i was losing my mind, questioning my sanity, etc.. It came to a point where things clicked for me and I realized what was happening.

While I do agree that he may be overcompensating for what happened, I am bisexual and have an ability to understand and empathize with his urges.  He does not believe these urges will ever occur again and I have told him he's kidding himself if he thinks that !!!  The big thing is whether he decides to act on them IMO. I am with him, and while I have had urges to be with other women I would not act on them and when I have had urges, I discuss them with him and he brings me back to reality that adding other people into our relationship would threaten our marriage. I just hope and pray that he does the same with me, because while the shock of me finding out may have supresse urges, I definitely don't believe it's over with. It will never be over with!

I don't believe he is gaslighting me, But I do believe he is downplaying the situation for sure which is concerning.

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