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June 20, 2018 6:40 pm  #1


Healing hope

So today my stbx returned to pick up his protein powder!!!  Wtf???  I was doing fine today, until I got home to find him here (done with gathering his things, but here).  He wanted to come in to talk to our 16 year old and I told him it is very hard for me to see him.  I swear I felt like I was having a panic attack, after a pretty good day...I guess I at least know, FOR SURE, that I cannot be around him or even see him right now.  I gave him our wedding album, big framed wedding picture too.  I figure he can look at them if he wants because I sure as hell don't want to!

I did ask him to pay for a healing workshop for me titled "Healing Intimate Treason," he agreed to pay for it.  My question for all you out there~has anyone done something like this?  It is a 5 day, 8 hour/day intensive therapy to begin healing from intimate betrayal.  They target, specifically, spouses of sex addicts and while I personally do not see the connection or parallel, I do see how both are forms of intimate betrayal.  I have also see/heard of Betrayal Trauma, which it seems is also mostly about partners of sex addicts.  

I feel so lost, empty, sad, mad, confused...
And while I am not obsessing all day about him, I am more than I'd like to.  I want to just forget him, totally.  I know that is unrealistic, but it is what I want today, in this moment.

 

June 20, 2018 9:32 pm  #2


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I must admit my first thought about that workshop for 'intimate betrayal' is they want their piece of the action now - from the frying pan to the fire, I fear.  Could be wrong of course..  expensive is it?

 

June 21, 2018 8:30 am  #3


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lily, not sure I follow...do you mean the spouses/victims (that is who go to the workshop), what sex?  What do you mean by "their piece of the action now?"
It IS expensive, $4,000 for 5 days...and nights, and meals and lodging.  Still, expensive.

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June 21, 2018 9:01 am  #4


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I'm always in favor of self-help books and training, workshops, retreats, coaching, etc..   Getting help from outside experts and professionals is so excellent. 

However, before spending the money I would make sure it was tailored appropriately to your needs.   I do think that the topic of intimate betrayal is applicable to our situation, but TGT does add a bit of a different twist that many professionals aren't equipped to handle. 

If you want a couple of recommendations for coaching and workshops led by straight spouses whom I know personally.   I can give you two of them:

1.)  Live Boldly Coaching    https://www.liveboldlycoaching.com/
Sara is a friend of mine.  A former straight spouse.  An overcomer!   She offers life-coaching, puts on adventure retreats, etc..  She is amazing!
2.)  The Summit - Straightforwardproject       https://www.thestraightforwardproject.org/the-summit-2018
Kimberly Brooks Mazella is also a straight spouse and a professional therapist, researcher and author.  She is putting on a women only straight spouse retreat in Washington DC in early August.  I know she's got some amazing speakers and events planned and I'm sure it would be a life-changing event for everyone who attends. 

 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

June 21, 2018 9:08 am  #5


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Thanks so much Phoenix!  I will absolutely reach out and look at both programs!!  Thank you thank you thank you.
Also, read your suggestion on the new threads and will begin now just updating my most recent one

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June 21, 2018 9:43 am  #6


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I'd be very cautious about expensive weekend or five-day retreats. These are often led by people who have titles in fields that are not professionally regulated and there's money to be made by branding yourself as an expert and developing a following. Who they are designed for is purposefully broad.

Coming out of this experience we are vulnerable emotionally and want to feel better immediately but a bad experience can make us feel worse. This is not to dismiss Phoenix's suggestion but to suggest that if you do not already have a counselor you are comfortable with and are seeing regularly you do that first. That way if anything is triggered when you do go to a retreat you have someone back home who can help you through it. 

I took things that my husband had left behind that were family pieces and took them to his family's home for him to sort through and give to his relative if they wanted any of them. I boxed up his general items so they were out of sight and easy to give him or give away.

 


Try Gardening. It'll keep you grounded.
 

June 21, 2018 9:54 am  #7


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Good advice Abby!


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

June 21, 2018 12:31 pm  #8


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yeah I have to say I thought Abby's advice was excellent - find yourself a good counsellor first.

Remember the EST group - I saw a man interviewed that got caught up in that group therapy.  It involved hypnotic kinetic light shows and long hours and you had to ask permission to leave the room even to go to the toilet.

3 days after his first session this middle aged man had dismantled his entire life - home family career.  He was just about penniless at time of interview.  Who knows what was causing his midlife crisis - maybe his entire life did need dismantling but if so then on your terms and with individual support come together first not a 'group'.  what member of the group is there when you need to pay the electricity bill.

The trouble with these self-help workshops is that they give you a high but it doesn't last and so you go to another one and then another one and this one is starting at expensive.  And the self help courses you 'must' embark on can often get more and more expensive - the modern version of self help is a big booming industry.  Thank you Tony Robbins - he showed us how lucrative it can be, it's been pyramid selling ever since.

However having said all that you are getting your ex to pay for it and that has a certain gratification in itself so go have fun!  (not serious, Abby and Phoenix are right about protecting your heart - just saying if you want to do it then with due caution why not - he's paying)

 

June 21, 2018 1:53 pm  #9


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And if you are a woman it can get worse. This was in my mind as I posted:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6117325/inside-horror-sex-slave-cult-nxivm/


Try Gardening. It'll keep you grounded.
 

June 21, 2018 2:24 pm  #10


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phoenix wrote:

Bookmarked for reading later. Thanks Phoenix


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