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May 28, 2018 3:28 pm  #1


Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

My wife of 18 years told me 6 days ago that she is gay. I hope most people do not have to go through pain like this ever in their lives. This may sound crazy but I am not angry with her because she held this in and did not act on it. We were happy in most ways except that I started to feel a while ago that she did not love me the way I loved her. I had been telling her recently that I am very unhappy and pushed her for an answer on why I was feeling that she no longer cared but she would only tell me that she did love me and did not know what was going on with her. After seeing a therapist this past week, she broke down and told me that she is attracted to women and cannot make it go away. We have 3 children. She is a wonderful mother. We've talked a lot since and while we will separate, we want to stay living together for our family. It is easier for her because she does not feel for me. It will be tough for me but I think I can do it because I do not hate her. I think I can get through this and find someone new but I am worried that I do not know what happens in the coming days. I worry that my sadness may turn into anger. I tell her that she now needs to be honest with me about everything but I don't know for sure if she will. I appreciate anyone who can tell me what could happen next. For me and for her. Can we do this or is there more hurt coming that will make this too difficult? 

 

May 28, 2018 5:37 pm  #2


Re: Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

Optimistic wrote:

....... Can we do this or is there more hurt coming that will make this too difficult? 

You're at the beginning of what may be a very difficult, and at times confusing and painful journey. Take time to read the stories & advice of those who walk the same path. 

There won't be a journey that's exactly the same, but there will be helpful advice and compassion 
from others with similar experience. You're in the right place


KIA KAHA                       
 

May 28, 2018 9:55 pm  #3


Re: Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

There is much to think about. First you have to figure out the initial days of shock. Then you have to start thinking further and further down the road, although not everything or every timeline is clearly defined. There will be sadness thinking about the future, frustration, anger, moments when you wish you could just spin the clock back like it never happened. It's part of the process. You are grieving, not for a person but for your relationship. It's commendable that your spouse did not step outside the marriage vows but now what? She probably will wish to explore this at some point and it might be sooner than you expect it to be or are ready for. How do you handle that in a shared house? What if she meets someone? What if you do?

I would agree you don't want to rush anything but think about how to move forward in a way that is fair to all, considering both the individual and the group.

Use this board in whatever way helps you, ask questions, bounce ideas, come vent. We know what this feels like.

 


“The future is unwritten.”
― Joe Strummer
 

May 29, 2018 9:05 am  #4


Re: Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

Hello Optmistic.   Welcome to our group.  I'm so sorry you are feeling this pain and trauma in your life.  It's very hard to learn that your spouse is not what you thought.  

When I was a week from disclosure I felt the same thing.  I loved my wife deeply and wanted to maintain my marriage and life as I knew it.  I would have walked on fire (or legos) to keep my wife even though I knew it would never be the same.  A month later she filed for divorce and I found out she was leaving me for another married woman who she had already fallen in love with.  So the decision was made by her.  I still begged and pleaded for a couple of months but she was already mentally gone.  


Optimistic wrote:

Can we do this or is there more hurt coming that will make this too difficult? 

You ask if it can work.  Yes, it can work.  But it's a big challenge.  You both need to have very clear and open lines of communication, which is hard considering you've just found out that she's lied to you for 18+ years about who she is.   But if you are both committed to making it work and willing to clean the slate and figure things out, then yes, it can work.   

You will need to define the new normal for your relationship.  Since she has admitted she is attracted to women and not to men, you need to understand what that means in practice for her.  It likely means she wants to experience sexuality with women.  She needs to tell you if she intends to remain monogamous or not.  Then you need to figure out how you feel about her answer.  Are you ok with her sleeping with other people or do you require her to be faithful to you?  Are you willing to remain monogamous with only her?  Do you still have an expectation of having intimacy with her?  Do you both have an "open marriage" and find outside partners?  Do you invite a 3rd party into your bed?  Are you ok with any of this from a moral and religious perspective?     So these are the big questions you need to figure out.   If you can both reach a point where you agree on a solution and are happy with the commitment going forward, then you can make it work.   After that you need to set the smaller rules and boundaries and communication standards.  There are many people out there who have a mixed orientation marriage and make it work.  They may not share the same sexuality but they share a family and they share love and commitment to what they define as their marriage.  If you are both on the same page you can do it too. 

But don't try to solve these issues today.  It's going to take time.  You are still in trauma and shock.  You can start pondering these issues, but give yourself some time to adjust and get your feet underneath you again before you start to solve things.  One thing you will learn is that your emotions will change frequently and rapidly as you go through this.  The things you feel today will change, so allow for your intentions and priorities to change over time as well.  


Take care of yourself.  Watch your health.  Make sure you are getting enough sleep and eating healthy.  Don't abuse alcohol or drugs to drown your pain.  Keep an eye on anxiety and depression.  These are all very normal symptoms of the trauma we go through, so take care to monitor yourself.  Go see a Dr. if you think you need to. 

Keep sharing, talking, reading..   We can help you get through this. 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

May 29, 2018 5:36 pm  #5


Re: Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

Phoenix. Thank you for your response. We are talking a lot. I told her a few days ago that she needs to tell me everything. she cannot hurt me any more than I hurt right now so just tell me what happened and what you are thinking. I know she is hurting too. 
She is already talking to someone that she met by chance at the same time she started to know what was going on with her. This woman has been in a gay marriage for 12 years with 2 kids and it is not working. They are interested in each other. They have met together once a couple weeks ago. I really do believe my wife did not explore physically with her but meeting her and talking confirmed her attraction.
So over the last two days, we've come to an OK place. We both want to stay home together and raise our kids together as long as we can.  Nether of us has any interest staying together as husband and wife but if we can both get to a better place. I actually look forward to my future already because I have not had return love in a long time. I think we can do this for our family and maybe even help each other through the challenges ahead. It will bother me that she is meeting with someone else but because it is not another man, I can accept that. She did not cheat on me (I believe). She cannot believe that I am responding with a plan for a happy future for us. I know she wants it too but maybe doesn't believe I can be ok with it.  She thought I would be mad, throw her out and never want to see her again.
Here's my new problem. I told her that in order to make this work, she needs to be considerate of what I am going through right now and be careful what she does.  She told me that she would but later did admit to me that she is planning to see her tomorrow.  That is the exact thing that will then make me angry and my idea is over. I told her that I do not mind that she is talking with someone but to meet with her right after I tell her to be careful with me? I cannot believe that she is going to do it. I think tomorrow will be the end to my perfect plan for us. 
I appreciate any suggestions or comments.

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May 30, 2018 8:57 am  #6


Re: Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

Optimistic wrote:

I told her that I do not mind that she is talking with someone but to meet with her right after I tell her to be careful with me? I cannot believe that she is going to do it. I think tomorrow will be the end to my perfect plan for us. 
I appreciate any suggestions or comments.

Optimistic, 

As jkpeace mentioned, there are trends we see very often in the stories of the new members who arrive in this place.  

One is selfishness.  A gay/lesbian spouse is one of the most selfish people in the world.  They hide their sexuality and use the other spouse.  A selfless person would care enough about the other person to admit who they are not drag that person into a life together.  You wife is being selfish right now.  She's started a massive earthquake in your life and rather than being there to help you keep your feet, she's shaking things up even more by seeing another person.  That is selfish of her. 

Another trend we see "gay adolescence".  When a LGBT person has bottled up their identity and desires for much of their life, when they finally give in and accept who they are.. they go through a phase of excitement where they want to enjoy everything they have missed to the fullest.  They put aside respect and responsibility and care for others and do what makes them feel good..  even if it hurts other people.    

A trend I see often is that lesbians married to str8 men often remain in the closet until they meet someone who pulls them out of the closet.  I suppose this can be true for gay men as well, but I think gay men tend to have sex simply for sex and not as part of relationship, whereas lesbian women are more likely to fall in love with another woman and have the sex accompany it.   The fact that your spouse has admitted feelings for another woman (a married woman no less) shows me that she may be following this trend.  While I hope it's not the case, I would warn you that her feelings for this woman are probably much deeper than she admits. 

Most of our spouses have done much more than they admit and they typically disclose only a little at a time to us.  Many of us guys are told that our wives are just now discovering that they might be "bisexual" because it makes them less guilty.  Only the truth is they have known since they were a young teen.  Many women discover their husband looking at gay porn, but they are not told of the gay hookups until they catch them later.  Many woman who catch their husband with a cell phone app for hookups are told they were just signed on for curiosity..  until they find out later that they have hooked up with dozens of men.  The theme here is that we get fed only small portions of the truth until we force it out or catch them in the act later.  If your wife has admitted being interested in someone and then you forced out a little more truth to learn that she is going to see her again, I would not be surprised if they have been mentally involved and likely physically involved for a while now.  I hope not for your sake because the pain of betrayal is VERY hard to take.  But I fear this already for you. 

My advice for you is to set some very clear boundaries with her to protect yourself and evaluate her willingness to work with you.  I would tell her straight away that while you might be willing to agree to an "open marriage" with different partners at some point, you are not ready for that yet and she is not allowed to see this other woman or anyone else until you are ready.. at least a few months to comprehend the new normal and get past this trauma stage you are in.  Her response to this will tell you pretty quickly where her priorities lie.  If she truly loves you and cares for you she will put off her desires for a little while longer.  If she loves herself more than you she will complain about this and find a way to talk you out of it.. or she will simply lie to you. 

Another rule I would set is complete transparency with cell phones and email accounts.  If she has something to hide from you she will never agree to this.  If she's hiding things from you then you will have a hard time establishing a level of trust you need to proceed. 

Sorry for all of this my friend.  Hope our advice is helpful to you.  Keep us informed and keep sharing your feelings and experiences and let us continue to offer our help.  We are here for you. 

 


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

May 31, 2018 12:48 pm  #7


Re: Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

I agree with Phoenix- be wary. They never tell us everything. I thought I had been very reasonable helping my husband come to terms with his sexuality. I discussed everything, encouraged him to have counselling but he still deceived me behind my back.
I feel that once they have admitted feelings/desires for the opposite sex its over. In their heads they have already left or are planning an affair.

 

June 4, 2018 8:21 am  #8


Re: Day 6 - Optimistic but wondering what might happen next

How are you doing Optimistic?   


-Formerly "Lostdad" - I now embrace the username "phoenix" because my former life ended in flames, but my new life will be spectacular. 

 
 

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